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Well, unless you're doing DEEP sea diving, you're not likely to encounter one of those. 
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01-22-2008
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When people get no fish to fish, they can't help but go deep...
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01-22-2008
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When people get no fish to fish, they can't help but go deep...
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It would be much easier to farm raise fish than to try fishing at those depths, imho.
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The pelagic fangtooths are among the deepest-living fish, found as far as 5,000 metres (16,400 feet) down. They are more commonly found between 200 - 2,000 metres (660 - 6,560 feet) however, and juveniles apparently stay within the upper reaches of this range.
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Fangtooth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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01-23-2008
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Don't worry. Nature will balance itself. So one day fishes will fight back. They will eat human in return and then we have to concern about our own population being threatened. Will you thank the Fish then Mike?
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You have been watching too may "Late Night Movies" like "Creatures from the Black Lagoon"
Fish can't fight back
Wild fish stocks will be depleted within the next 10-20 years unless sanctuaries are made everywhere.
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01-30-2008
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Here's some more disturbing news (we need a "happy news" section to offset all this gloom).
The Associated Press: Calif. Salmon Population Declines
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Not long ago, salmon restoration efforts in the Sacramento watershed were being touted as a wildlife management success story. But recent years have seen populations dwindle in many Western rivers, and scientists are trying to understand why.
The council plans to meet in Sacramento in March to discuss possible restrictions, including a complete closure of the salmon season that begins in May. Final decisions will be made in April.
Duncan MacLean, a Half Moon Bay fisherman who is on a team that advises the fishery council, said he's bracing for hard times.
"It's probably going to be worse than anything we've experienced before," said MacLean, 58, who relies on salmon fishing for as much as 70 percent of his income. "It's going to put a lot of us out or business."
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If the salmon disappear from the west, that will be a VERY bad sign!
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02-14-2008
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May be not only the fish.
Humans screwing up more than half of World's ocean...
Wild Blue Yonder Not So Wild | Wired Science from Wired.com
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02-14-2008
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I live on Lake Erie (not on on the lake but within walking distance of) and it is definitly a mess....fish with wierd nasty growths etc. I wouldn't eat anything that came out of it...but people do...the game commission posts a list in the fishing liscence manual every year with recomended maximums for consumption of lake fish....aparently eating too many will result in health problems down the line due to all that good stuff they've been puttin in the lake, it's tributaries, the three lakes above (Superior, Huron, and Michigan), and their tributaries.
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02-15-2008
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just four percent of Earth's oceans are still pristine; coral reefs, seagrass beds, rocky reefs and continental shelves have been particularly hard hit, while soft-bottom shallows and the deep ocean have fared best.
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Very depressing article/picture from you and DFINITLYDISTRUBD
I think the seas are stuffed.
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02-17-2008
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Ocean advocates hopeful of WTO cut in fishing support
Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:15am EST
By Missy Ryan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Supporters of action to protect the world's fragile fish stocks are hoping that a recent proposal to drastically limit fishing subsidies will prevail in global trade talks.
"We are in such dire conditions," said Courtney Sakai, campaign director for Oceana, an environmental group that vocally opposed subsidies for boat-building, fuel and other activities they say have pushed fisheries close to exhaustion.
Critics of those subsidies, which total about $20 billion a year globally, hope that a long-awaited agreement in the World Trade Organization's Doha round will force countries like Japan to scale back payments.
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Ocean advocates hopeful of WTO cut in fishing support | Environment | Reuters
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Ocean trawling impacts can be seen from space
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February 16, 2008
Bottom trawling, an industrial fishing method that drags large, heavy nets across the seafloor stirs up huge, billowing plumes of sediment on shallow seafloors that can be seen from space.

Untrawled and trawled seafloor, deep Oculina Reefs, Florida. Photos: R.Grant Gilmore, Dynamac Corperation, Lance Horn, UNC Wilmington
As a result of scientific studies showing that bottom trawling kills vast numbers of corals, sponges, fishes and other animals, bottom trawling has been banned in a growing number of places in recent years. Now satellite images show that spreading clouds of mud remain suspended in the sea long after the trawler has passed.
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Ocean trawling impacts can be seen from space
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“The root cause of this crisis is a failure of both perspective and governance,” concludes the seminal Pew Oceans Commission’s 2003 report to the nation.
“We have failed to conceive of the oceans as our largest public domain, to be managed holistically for the greater public good in perpetuity.”
Instead, we have roiled the waters, compromising the equilibrium that allowed our species to flourish in the first place, and providing ourselves with a host of challenges that will test our clever brains and our opposable thumbs as never before.
Afloat on arks of dry land, we sail toward a stormy future.
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02-25-2008
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World Fisheries Face Collapse Within Decades - UN
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MONACO: February 25, 2008
MONACO - A deadly combination of climate change, over-fishing and pollution could cause the collapse of commercial fish stocks worldwide within decades, said Achim Steiner, head of the United Nations Environment Programme.
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Some 2.6 billion people worldwide depend on fish for protein, said a UNEP report "In Dead Water" published on Friday.
Climate change has compounded previous problems such as over-fishing, as rising temperatures kill coral reefs, threaten tuna spawning grounds, and shift ocean currents and with them the plankton and small fish which underpin ocean food chains.
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Planet Ark : World Fisheries Face Collapse Within Decades - UN
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Garrett extends blue fin tuna licences
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Federal Environment Minister Peter Garrett has approved a two-year extension to southern blue fin tuna licences.
Fishing of southern blue fin tuna has been controlled by a conservation committee since stocks became severely depleted in the 1980s.
Australia has a yearly quota of 5,265 tonnes, which is mostly caught by licensed fishing operations off Port Lincoln in South Australia.
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Garrett extends blue fin tuna licences - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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