Economic Crisis; Solutions

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by goku

wasn't it clinton that made loans easy to get?
didn't he say that he wanted every american to own a home?

things are gona have to git a whole lot worse before they'll ever get any better.

fair tax is a great idea, i think. you buy something, you pay tax. the more expensive, the more tax.
even the illegals would be paying taxes! it would work and that is why it didn't get pasted.

WAKE-UP PEOPLE!
the government doesn't want to fix anything, they want everyone dependent on them.
how else could america be distroied?

save us obama! save us!............ sickening!
people wanted change, by george they gona git it.

i specially liked how obama talked about the "same old government with the same old players" wouldn't change anything. now look at his advisers and cabinet members, bout everyone of them also worked for clinton, except for hillery

sorry didn't mean to rant, big can of worms there.
love the thread, great topic

So, the self-proclaimed "ignorant farmboy" wrote this? You don't know how many legs on an insect, but you know all about the economy & politics? Your words aren't worth the virtual ink it took to put them down. Moreover, even here in this thread you have twice now ignored the fact put forward that the US does not have enough oil to supply our use, a tactic you have employed so frequently in your theology posting.

I'm all on about frugality in any economic climate; minimalist multifunctionism to borrow a phrase. Don't spend what you don't have and don't spend on what you don't need.

Here's an economic crisis tactic: Get off your duff and start planting an old-fashioned Victory Garden tomorrow on Sun Day.

[charles brough]

Originally Posted by goku

wasn't it clinton that made loans easy to get?
didn't he say that he wanted every american to own a home?

things are gona have to git a whole lot worse before they'll ever get any better.

fair tax is a great idea, i think. you buy something, you pay tax. the more expensive, the more tax.
even the illegals would be paying taxes! it would work and that is why it didn't get pasted.

WAKE-UP PEOPLE!
the government doesn't want to fix anything, they want everyone dependent on them.
how else could america be distroied?

save us obama! save us!............ sickening!
people wanted change, by george they gona git it.

i specially liked how obama talked about the "same old government with the same old players" wouldn't change anything. now look at his advisers and cabinet members, bout everyone of them also worked for clinton, except for hillery

sorry didn't mean to rant, big can of worms there.
love the thread, great topic

wow! It would seem that a statement by Clinton that everyone should have a home is going to destroy the country!! It would seem that you would be better of not putting posts in when you are upset!

Personally, I am glad he didn't get Bush hold-overs in his cabinet! I like that he got experienced people but rather young people instead of reaching back into Nixon or Reagen!

Considering that the crash comes after some eight years under the Bush years, it seems to be rather a stretch to blame it all on Clinton! What has the Bush people been doing all that time (other than deregulating everything they could and laying the foundation for this economic mess).

charles
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[wadeg]

How about we start looking at the fundamentals. Do we still need money at all? Is there an alternative..?

I say.. yes there is!

[Zythryn]

Wadeg, feel free to flesh out your idea. Mentioning an idea without giving any information about it is not very helpful.
Before you do though, you might be interested in other threads about the idea of a moneyless society. One such thread can be found at moneyless society

And welcome to the board

[charles brough]

Originally Posted by wadeg

How about we start looking at the fundamentals. Do we still need money at all? Is there an alternative..?

I say.. yes there is!

Sure there's an alternative. Stone age man did fine without money for tens of thousands of years. After the inflation and debasement of the currency in Ancient Rome, they went back to barter which persisted into Feudal times. We could use shells perhaps. What do you suggest? LOL

[belovelife]

how about doing a nation wide instillation of solar pannels on trains, trolleys, and that sort
then work would be spread across the nation, we start working on that peskie global warming issue
and we power our transportation for free

the only thing is that the best solar pannels are probly top secret because it would cloak a ship in space, basiclly a defence issue

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by belovelife

the only thing is that the best solar pannels are probly top secret because it would cloak a ship in space, basiclly a defence issue

Besides being off-topic, you have not supported this claim. Please stay on-topic and support your claims..

[wufwugy]

I am very pleased with the Obama administration. He has decided to listen to experts who have learned much from the Great Depression, Japan's Lost Decade, Keynesianism, etc

IMO, it would only be looking better if Obama thought it were more politically viable to pursue more.

[freeztar]

Some have been saying that Obama is making the same mistakes that FDR made during the Great Depression. I'd be interested to hear people's opinions on this. Is the "new new-deal" a poor decision for a solution?

[Zythryn]

I am no expert on the FDR administration.
My understanding is that the banks actually closed down to prevent a run on the banks. This turned out to be a large mistake.
This time around, both administrations (Bush and Obama) are doing their best to make sure credit continues to flow and the population doesn't loose confidence in the banks.

We also have a number of 'safety nets' in place now that were not in place then.

Anyone more familiar with the history?