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Old 04-22-2009   #61 (permalink)
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Its just that the Federal Reserve is a Private Banking institution. Not a federal government run operation.
The very article you listed to support your argument states that is is 'quasi public'. It has elements of both. Supporting the idea that the truth lies between your position and the other extreme.
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It should also be noted much of our our currency is printed in South Korea. Hows about that??
I find that fascinating. Do you have a source for that? I would love to learn more about that decision.
The information I could find does not mention that. As a matter of fact, it indicates the currency/notes are printed in Washington DC and Fort Worth, TX:
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During fiscal year 2007, the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) produced approximately 38 million notes a day with a face value of approximately $750 million.
Per: https://treas.gov/education/faq/curr...ction.shtml#q1

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If you think everything is hunky-dorey, then Great. Keep your head in the sand.
Where did you get the idea that I thought everything was 'hunky-dorey'?
You can attempt to belittle anyone that disagrees with you, but would be better served to back up your arguments with links that actually support your statements rather than contradict them.
My disagreement with you is that there are wholes in your logic is not sound, not even close, and it normally is. I was hoping to get some clarification about any support you have for your position.
Statements of yours such as:
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The Federal Reserve system has No More to do with the government than Federal Express.
which by your own postings is not the case just do your position a disservice.


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We can respectfully disagree wufwugy.
That is an entirely different issue, and has nothing to do with whether or not the Fed is a financial institution with economic purposes
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The very article you listed to support your argument states that is is 'quasi public'. It has elements of both. Supporting the idea that the truth lies between your position and the other extreme.

I find that fascinating. Do you have a source for that? I would love to learn more about that decision.
The information I could find does not mention that. As a matter of fact, it indicates the currency/notes are printed in Washington DC and Fort Worth, TX:
Per: https://treas.gov/education/faq/curr...ction.shtml#q1
And you would be correct, additional source;
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Since October 1, 1877, all U.S. currency has been printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, which started out as a six person operation using steam powered presses in the basement of the Department of Treasury. Now, 2,300 Bureau employees occupy twenty-five acres of floor space in two Washington, D.C. buildings. The Treasury also operates a satellite printing plant in Ft. Worth, Texas. Currency and stamps are designed, engraved, and printed twenty-four hours a day on thirty high speed presses. In 1990, at a cost of 2.6 cents each, over seven billion notes worth about $82 billion were produced for circulation by the Federal Reserve System. Ninety-five percent will replace unfit notes and five percent will support economic growth. At any one time, $200 million in notes may be in production. Notes produced in 2002 were the $1 note, 41% of production time; the $5 note, 19%; $10 notes, 16%; $20 note, 15%; and $100 note, 9%. No $2 or $50 notes were printed in 2002.

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As I recall however the paper used, may not be produced in the US.....

The Federal Reserve DOES operate under the Corporate Structure, said to be independent of Government, however the Chairman is appointed by the US Executive and confirmed by the Congress. I DON'T think Fred Smith, CEO/Founder of Fed Ex, need go through that process.

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While I agree, the current economic health of the US, is a bit strained, I would suggest a great deal has to do with where the current and last (final 6 months) administration's has taken policy. There is nothing IMO conducive to 'Free Market Capitalism' which the US has practiced extensively for 140 years and in spirit since formation. The elections in 2010 and the actions of Congress until then, will determine the length of this recession, the direction of policy and the hoped for rebuilding of confidence of the US consumer/business communities, possibly the worlds....
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To me, bailing out automobile producers just because they are America's pride is simply nonsense.

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To me, bailing out automobile producers just because they are America's pride is simply nonsense.
It's important. Automobile industry is a worldwide money collection. It is an important source of trade surplus.
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It's important. Automobile industry is a worldwide money collection. It is an important source of trade surplus.
That was before we bailed them out and revved up the deficit.


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