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Re: Building a Boat

redshift asked me to post his boat plans, found below.
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Re: Building a Boat

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I would like to be able to use pedal power to push the boat and/or charge batteries. It seems that this may be a tall order.
here is an interesting alternative to pedal/ propellor power...

Hobie Cat Dealer Hi-Tempo White Bear Lake Minnesota On-Line Catalog, Hobie Kayaks, Hobie Fishing Kayaks, Hobie Float Cats

Kayaks Why not use a propeller?
~Human-powered propeller drives are typically smaller and therefore less efficient. We compared the performance of the MirageDrive to a propeller drive, and found the MirageDrive to be faster and more efficient.
~Studies on tuna and penguins show that oscillating foils such as the MirageDrive are more efficient than propellers. Oscillating foils can make use of vortices that are naturally shed from anything going through the water to offset the vortices that would normally be generated by fins. This equates to less turbulence in the water.
~The MirageDrive fins "feather" into the flow when not pedaling and create very little drag; a propeller creates significant drag when it is not spinning.
~The back-and-forth motion of the pedals provides a long, smooth stroke.
~Pedals that go in circles on a boat have a much different feel than pedals on a bike. On a boat, there are portions of a circular motion that are more difficult, so the cycle is not smooth.
~The back-and-forth motion allows the pedals to be positioned much lower in the cockpit.
~The MirageDrive allows any length of stroke desired, and performs well with both short and long strokes.
~The pedals easily adjust to accommodate different size pedalers.
~The oscillating motion allows the use of a simple chain and cable system that is unaffected by sand and dirt, without the use of complicated seals.
~The fins shed seaweed because they do not make a full rotation.
~The MirageDrive fins fold up next to the hull for beaching and in shallow water by simply putting one foot forward.

With the different views I have included someone with a bit of skill could do a knock off of the mirage drive... I think a boat this wide would need two side-by-side for control, but it would always have to have two people then.. and the wheels added to the boat for towing is cool too....

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WOW! cool.
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I’m curious about the spray on oil rig foam – got a link to something about it? Is it intended for floatation, or protection against bumps, corrosion, etc?

The foam in my experience isn’t completely watertight, and slowly takes in water, loosing buoyancy. It’s the same stuff that’s bolted, strapped, or just stuck into boxes on the undersides of swimming raft’s and floating docks, which settle lower in the water as they age. After 5 years of so, the foam gets so ratty you can gouge out chunks of it with your fingers, and can get some interesting smells – not a big deal under a floating dock, but not something I’d want in boat cabin.
I have some of the answers and an email to my brothers friend. Soon as I get some time I will email him and see if he can come into the forum and answer questions directly. I dont know how far he can go due to proprietary info.

The foam is used around the pipe fittings as a corrosion protection. It is coated with a resin on the outside to prevent decay. What I am not sure of is if that is a secondary, just to be sure redundancy. My bro thought it was redundancy and seemed to think this newer type of foam doesnt have the decay issues you describe. He talked a bit of the enviro testing it went under to be approved for this use. They also use concrete on top of that for weight when needed. It is a different foam mixture than what they used in the car.
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Tis the season to dream of aqua adventures!

This is a video clip of a homemade craft....
this one is really nice but only for use off of another craft or a dock.. there is too much keel for bayous or sand landings I would think... it's cost? about $2400 Also, there is a side by side seater with a little bit more length. I hear folks take the seats out to makeshift some kind of berth..
this one is my choice..
and this is just an amazing adventure!
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building a better single person craft!
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building a better single person craft!
YouTube - Inside Alinghi
What that thing needs is a couple of bullet shaped mini-hulls at each side of the platform...each just large enough to prevent each side from digging in to the surf and acting as brakes.
Of course splitting the rear foil locating half at each side at the rear and making them adjustable would provide more stability (increase lift on down side decrease lift on the up...more stability with an additional benefit of reduced drag on the side with the reduced lift).
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