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Dan, people are not saying the devices don't improve gas mileage.
What they are saying is that the improvement in gas mileage is either:
1) Not because the hydrogen is being produced as a fuel.
2) The hydrogen that is produced is produced outside of the vehicle so no net gain is apparent.
3) If as an additive, no one has isolated the mechanism that allows the fuel to burn more fully.

All we are asking for is some study to the effect.
How much hydrogen is produced and in what amount of time.
How much harder does the engine have to work in order to produce the hydrogen.
How much fuel mileage improvement is there if the O2 sensor hack is employed WITHOUT adding any hydrogen?

Test these things out, report your results and you may get people to take you seriously.
1 amp for 1 hour will produce 6 litres of gas
it is about a 3%load on the alternator
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You can answer this over in the other thread, but I really don't understand the claim. Is there a link to it?

As far as I've ever know, alternating current (be it sine, triangular, or square waved) is less capable of electrolyzing water into hydrogen than direct current. You are considering using a DC power supply so I can't figure why you're considering square waves.

But, I'll withhold any opinion until I've seen the claim.

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dc current will electrolize water ac wont
you will also need a large variable resistor and a heap of hight wattage globes to adjust the dc current through the fuel cel to ground
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dc current will electrolize water ac wont
you will also need a large variable resistor and a heap of hight wattage globes to adjust the dc current through the fuel cel to ground
You are mistaken about AC Doc. I performed the experiment & posted on it here. >> Ac electrolysis


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1 amp for 1 hour will produce 6 litres of gas
it is about a 3%load on the alternator
Excellent! Thank you for the information.
Now, how much fuel efficiency improvement will you get from that 6 liters and will it last for an hour?
The 3% load on the alternator, how much extra gasoline will be needed to cover that?


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the gas is recycleable and the load on the alternator changes so the fuel required is not a constant variable. and it is miniscule

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1 amp for 1 hour will produce 6 litres of gas
it is about a 3%load on the alternator
As far as we've established (1, 2, 3) what you say here is in complete error. 1 amp will make less than a liter (of both H and O).

Can you show a source or method explaining otherwise.

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the gas is recycleable and the koad on the altenator changes so the fuel required is not a constant variable. and it is miniscule
Can you please prove or source or somehow otherwise explain this mangled mess of words.

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Yeah , how does recyclable figure into it.


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