Large Hadron Collider

[buddyzen]

If your analogy of time is somehow true i do not understand, how physicly you would move time back ( or the reel in the analogy ). How would that be possible you would have to somehow alter the present so that it would be recreated as the past for example where i am right now will be exacly the same from any point in time now unless you somehow change it in that time period now if you somehow change it so it goes back..... in my opinion i think that is totally impossible.. yet i do think you can change to get to the future like a theory is things speed up when you are neer a black hole if you could possbly stand next to one lol. for example you are in space next to a black hole far away from earth and you somehow had a giant telescope that could see all the way down on earth in a city... you would see everything going really fast and also it does not speed up time it just slows you down or your preception you will still grow hair and age and everything.......... so i do not understand your analogy of time at all i would really like if you could help me understand your preception of this

[CraigD]

Originally Posted by 7DSUSYstrings

Limited time today and where the posting of math in this forum is concerned, I need some type (no pun intended) of guide to the html format that allows me to build an equation like Alexander has. I can do this readily at my own msn forum, but the character format here is different. Help me and I'll help you back.

I’ll help on this one, ‘cause it’s much easier than all this black hole physics!

Hypography supports LaTeX’s math package. To use it, put a LaTeX expression inside a math begin and end tag. For example,

[math]\lambda = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}[/math]

will render as



Some specifics and discussion about hypography’s LaTeX support can be found in this thread and this one. My favorite guide to the LaTeX math package is wikipedia’s “Help: Displaying a formula”. A neat little tutorial page is mimetextutorial.html. Neither provide much on LaTeX math's modest line drawing features, so if you want to use them, you'll have to dig for documentation on your own.

As with many markup languages, the best way to learn LaTeX math can be to, when you see something you like in a post, click its quote button, and take a look at the math code. To do this, you may need to set the “Message Editor Interface” on your Options page to Basic or Standard Editor – I think the “Full WYSIWYG” setting may hide tags from you. You can also hover your mouse pointer over a rendered formula for a quick glimpse of the code, but at the moment the neat feature that allowed you to click it to display it in a copy-able pop-up box is not working

[alexander]

mimetex does not support lines, because it's a package written in c (compiled as cgi) that does some of the latex stuff, and we actually have it installed here but i highly don't recommend using it, it does not do caching. We use a plugin called VbLatex (infact not many people know it, but we basically pioneered it, and myself might be working with the original developer on a new version of this plugin)

VbLatex actually uses the latex engine to render the equations, thus it does support graphics (well, its not a math function, its an extension called graph or something like that)

Dr C, give it a shot, play around with some formulas, you can always use preview to see if you have made any mistakes (one feature i will work on, if i get to help the original developer, will be better syntax checking and an error pointing out module... perhaps even a simple error correction module... who knows)

btw latex is used extensively in paper publishing involving really anything, its such an awesome text publishing tool!

[7DSUSYstrings]

[LaTeX Error: Syntax error (Undefined control sequence. \[ [I]V[/I] = 4\pir -- Missing } inserted. -- Too many }'s. \frac #1#2->{\begingroup #1\endgroup \@@over #2} )]


That's what I got so far.

Some of this is going to be tough to put online without the MIB's showing up(?) at my door (?)... I already receive error messages that amount to "we're watching you" before I can log on here at the library then again when logging on here.

Let's start with some opinions:

1. Do you believe neutrinos have mass? Photons? Gravitons? Gluons?

2. Are you open to the possibility that gravity may not be a force of [curl operator] attraction, but instead an inbound string dimensional particle?

My theory, of 40 years now, shows an emerging quality where neutrinos are potentially the outbound twin of the graviton. It begins at sub-c and develops super-c at the outer limits of the universe. It would spend some time in a convolute universal orbit, then return at super-c to our known universe where intersections with other similarly inelastsic particles will define its new trajectory. It may or may not return to the same atomic structure, still a graviton is a graviton is a graviton...

(running out of time and no sys-ops available to extend time...)

Buddyzen,

A time machine would need to vibrate outside the mechanism of gravity-time I just described. Once outside it could produce its own spacial dimension; i.e. its own separate universe. That universe will be malable and can be projected as you please. However, it would violate the cosmological constant (2.75) of this universe, thus hopping out of one frame, one would need to scavange the mass from another or make use of the vacuum energy of the void, that being absolutely infinite, to replace it. A frame should only be able to generate a minima-maxima of mass-energy normal to the gradient created by the vacuum (zero point) energy of the void.

This will be an integral relating to the spherical volume (I was attempting to build that simple formula at the top)

The plans for the machine? I'm not at liberty to discuss such and it would potentially be more disasterous than this alleged "black hole" fear we are discussing. The machine should take no more power than would be required to lift its own weight. A small ship would probably need a couple HP...

Digest that for a bit...

[7DSUSYstrings]

Addendum:

I think I replied to a global warming thread in here somewhere. Did the thread go bad?

[Moontanman]

Maybe the LHC has already produced a black hole that is consuming the Earth but we are unaware of it due to time dilation

[alexander]

let me help you with this:

[i]V[/i] = 4[pi]r[sup]3[/sup][frac]3

in latex there are a few things to remember:
special symbols and functions start with a \
systems are defined with curly braces and are usually function delimiters {}
and square brackets are bad so from that
\textit{} would be the function for italic text
\pi would represent lower case, greek letter pi (just like \Pi would represent its capital version)
super set is defined with a carrot ( ^ )
sub set with an underscore ( _ )
fraction is the function \frac and takes to arguments \frac{top}{bottom}

thus rewriting your code above as
\textit{V}=\frac{4\pi^{3}}{3}
the curly braces around the three in \pi^{3} are not necessary as the first character after the ^ or _ function will be taken, but the brackets relieve confusion when you have something like \pi^21 and then wonder why it shows up as pi^2*1
(assuming that's what you wanted to try)

[alexander]

basic latex text functions can be found here if anyone wants a reference btw

LaTeX: Fonts

[alexander]

also Dr. C i desperately need your physicist oppinion in this thread... can not seem to figure it out with modest, at least to the point where it makes sense, so can you please look at this thread's latest developements? Please? i can teach you latex in return

http://hypography.com/forums/physics...s-working.html

[7DSUSYstrings]

Moontanman,

(is that like a Golden Earring Moontan...?)

Ever listened to an old Firesign Theater album about "Mark Time?" In the end the earth was consumed by a black hole and the computer says "Beep!... You are in black hole.... You are okay..."


Time travel machines are fascinating, but the T.A.R.D.I.S. is, IMO, the most gnarley of them all. I was thinking how could you make the interior larger than the outside. This could be done with a worm hole within a worm hole. The outer machine provides the actual time machine while the inner hole provides the luxurious space machine. When you step in through the police box doors you deflate, or "shrink." The outer machine is the specific time travel geometry.

Cool, huh?


Alexander,

Thanx. I'll give the LaTex a whirl next time. I'll spin into the other thread you requested.

Global warming is a concern I've been working on. That helium issue, you know... I have run some numbers and with livestock production alone since only 1850 it would have expanded our lower atmosphere by at least 300 meters... This would also expand the inner and outer radii of the inert gas layer. This fine tuned radius could affect life as we know it in many ways. As I mentioned in that other thread, a helium layer is a must for a star. That's my original doctorate thesis. Now the post doc work involves what's in the convection zone and the chromosphere. If I'm correct, the chromosphere is something akin to nanodots, only on a larger scale. This means stars are artificial...