The solutions to Global Warming include. . .

[razetheladder]

i'm not entirely clear on what you were saying in your post, but i think you may be confused about the way agriculture works. first, it is most certainly not true that "those feed yards also produce the fertilizer we use in the field that now produce many times the yields of previous generation of crops". factory farms produce huge amounts of manure (i'm guessing this is the fertilizer you were referring to?), but there's so much that they don't know what to do with it. a lot of it just goes into waterways, completely destroying them. check out this article to see what actually happens rollingstone.com/politics/story/12840743

the main reason yields have gone up is increased pesticides, mechanization, and new seed varieties. those first two are bad for human health and bad for global warming. we'd be better off switching to organic farming, which has lower yields but is more sustainable.

"agriculture its self produces a very large amount of CO2, uses even larger amounts of fresh water and requires many forms of fertilizer."

maybe you mean that if we were all vegetarian we'd have to grow more crops? if that's what you meant, then you should know that we currently feed 70-80 percent of US grain to animals, and it takes 5-10 more grain fed to an animal to get 100 calories from meat than if we just ate the grain in the first place. going vegetarian would mean we could reduce our yield by 50 percent and still feed everyone. which fits perfectly with switching to lower yield organic agriculture.

"aside from some major health problems"

did you mean vegetarianism causes health problems? because all the evidence is that a vegetarian diet is far healthier than almost all meat-based diets.

finally, if by "alliterative motive" you meant ulterior motive, then i am happy to admit that in addition opposing global warming, i also oppose needlessly inflicting barbaric suffering on animals.

[InfiniteNow]

This thread is about solutions to global warming. I suggest posters do not let themselves get derailed by baseless arguments, and if you care to discuss other topics (agriculture, vegetarianism, fertilizer, etc.) you start a new thread or PM one another.

Global warming... hmmm... solutions.... hmm....



Do away with money. While this would have other ramifications (not relevant to this thread) that would likely be difficult, really the only thing stopping us from making immediate improvement to the climate is the bottom line. Too many people and businesses place a greater good on profit than on ecology.

Take money out of the equation.

[razetheladder]

since the meat industry contributes more to global warming than cars and planes put together, the issue seems extremely relevant. like i said, one key solution to global warming needs to be a massive decrease in meat eating.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by razetheladder

since the meat industry contributes more to global warming than cars and planes put together, the issue seems extremely relevant. like i said, one key solution to global warming needs to be a massive decrease in meat eating.

This is a new idea, one which I have not yet encountered. Can you help me learn more?

[TheBigDog]

Reduce you co2 footprint, reduce the amount of waste you generate. Whether or not it does a lick of good, it is how you can contribute.

Plant trees everywhere. They will reduce the co2 in the air, and they will look nice.

Enjoy the warm weather and stop complaining. Warming and cooling is inevitable. We need to be conscious of that and quit flinging quilt. If you are in an area that is going to be under water, or part of the droughts predicted as being unavoidable at this point, take it upon yourself to move. If everything is going to happen as predicted, then we have enough time to make it a victimless transition, right?

Bill

[razetheladder]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

This is a new idea, one which I have not yet encountered. Can you help me learn more?

check out these two studies:
fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html

chronicle.uchicago.edu/060511/veggie.shtml (article on the study)
geosci.uchicago.edu/%7Egidon/papers/nutri/nutri3.pdf (the study)

the livestock industry produces 18 percent of human-induced greenhouse gases, which is more than all gases from transportation.

[Turtle]

Here's a little motivation for all you go-getters chompin' at the bit to change the world climate. (As if! )

Originally Posted by environmentguardian

Sir Richard Branson today offered a $25m (£12.8m) prize for scientists who find a way to help save the planet from the effects of climate change.
Flanked by the former US vice-president Al Gore and other environmentalists, the boss of Virgin Atlantic airlines called for scientists to come up with a way to extract greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.

Read more >>> Virgin boss offers $25m reward to save Earth | Climate change | Guardian Unlimited Environment

PS Might be prudent to have a contingency plan for getting it back when things go wrong, as Murphy's law says they must.

[TheBigDog]

Originally Posted by Turtle

Here's a little motivation for all you go-getters chompin' at the bit to change the world climate. (As if! )



Read more >>> Virgin boss offers $25m reward to save Earth | Climate change | Guardian Unlimited Environment

Plant trees, cut them into lumber and plant more trees. Millions and millions of acres every year. Where do I collect my check?

Bill

[Michaelangelica]

Maybe this?
Metta Spencer's weblog: Two New Anti-Global Warming Inventions

[Boerseun]

The quickest, easiest way to lower your carbon footprint (and to put money in your pocket!) is to slightly overinflate your tyres, and change your driving habits to suit your engine's best fuel performance.

Overinflating your tyres alone will save you an easy 30-40% on your fuel bill, and driving slower will obviously save you as much proportional to how fast you used to drive before.

Not only will you have more money in your pocket at the end of the month, but your emissions will be a lot lower.