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07-12-2008
|  | In the Spatula Zone |  Sponsor | | | | Re: Environmental Study of Lechtenberg Park Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle | That's strange. They list some as percentages and some as mg. It states 150mg of calcium. That's hard to believe considering one fresh leave probably only ways about 0.5g. 
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Originally Posted by Turtle I wasn't sure about eating Skunk Cabbage, but I had heard of using the leaves as wraps for other food. Danke Freezy.
Here's something from the medicinal plant link I gave; it gives nutrient content on a 'per leaf' basis. :: Oxalis corniculata - Plants For A Future database report
These quantities...% by weight, oui/no?  | If you want, you could send me a sample, and I could analyze it for oxalic acid using LC/MS. 
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Originally Posted by freeztar That's strange. They list some as percentages and some as mg. It states 150mg of calcium. That's hard to believe considering one fresh leave probably only ways about 0.5g.  | Yeah; not too consistent. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Mercedes the Chemist If you want, you could send me a sample, and I could analyze it for oxalic acid using LC/MS.  | Is that a liquid chromatography-mass spectrometer you're standing at in your new profile pic?  I wonder how fast everything starts to break down after picking? Then there is the matter of how the immediate environment may affect mineral & oxalate concentrations in individual plants.
I am far more comfortable using these plants medicinally as external agents. My other source has the Omaha tribe using a poultice of Oxalis to reduce swelling for example.
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Originally Posted by Turtle  My bad for not clarifying 'tight' pin knot.  The qualifier 'tight' indicates that there is no separation between the branchlet part of the knot and the wood surrounding it. This is not to say that over time a separation may arise and then the pin knot is qualified as 'loose'. So, the pin knot is tight so no leakage, and the mineral oil is soaked into the pores so no liquid penetration. The yew spoon is beatifically simply useable.
I do intend to look for some pitch in Lechtenberg, as I may try my hand at making an arrow or flighted lance with my Ninebark stem. As you suggest, Native Americans employed pitch as a sealant and as I suggest, as a glue. In the case of arrows, one technique for attaching the feather flights is to glue them to the shaft along their length, and bind the ends. If I go with a lance, I may as well carve an atlatl while I'm at it. I know just the Heron nests to search under for feathers.
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Originally Posted by Moontanman |    All tribes welcome here Luna Tanna Manna. Thanks for dropping in.
Since I posted this bit: Quote: |
Originally Posted by Truttle ... I do intend to look for some pitch in Lechtenberg, as I may try my hand at making an arrow or flighted lance with my Ninebark stem. ... | , I found that my fieldguide mentioned branches of Saskatoon as favored for arrows, not the Ninebark.  Nonetheless, I have a nice Ninebark lance blank & there is plenty of Saskatoon in Lechtenberg. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Saskatoon Farm David Thompson reported in 1810;
"On the great Plains there is a shrub bearing a very sweet berry of a dark blue color, much sought after, great quantities are dried by the Natives; in this state, these berries are as sweet as the best currants, and as much as possible mixed to make pemmican; the wood is hard, weighty and flexible, but not elastic, and wherever it can be procured always forms the Arrow of the Indian, I have dwelt on the above, as it (is) the staple food of all persons, and affords the most nourishment in the least space and weight..." | about
Doing some more looking,  , I find Saskatoon is medicinal as well. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Plant Life Dot Org Medicinal Uses:
Saskatoon was quite widely employed as a medicinal herb by the North American Indians, who used it to treat a wide range of minor complaints. It is little used in modern herbalism. An infusion of the inner bark has been used as a treatment for snow-blindness. A decoction of the fruit juice is mildly laxative. It has been used in the treatment of upset stomachs, to restore the appetite in children, it is also applied externally as ear and eye drops. A decoction of the roots has been used in the treatment of colds. It has also been used as a treatment for too frequent menstruation. A decoction of the stems, combined with the stems of snowberry (Symphoricarpos spp) is diaphoretic. ... | (Snowberry abounds in Lechtenberg.)
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07-19-2008
|  | woodland creature | | | | | Re: Environmental Study of Lechtenberg Park Saskatoon is good for Snow Blindness.
Excellent!  
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08-01-2008
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Originally Posted by Racoon Saskatoon is good for Snow Blindness.
Excellent!  
Rack the Turtle.  |  Who said that!? Who's there!?  On that note Rac, I found after our trip that Saskatoon is AKA Serviceberry.  As if one name isn't already enough.
No new trips, but I got around to ID'ing a plant I photographed back in May. False Lilly-Of-The-Valley - Maianthemum dilatatum. Maianthemum dilatatum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My book says roots, leaves, and berries have many medicinal uses, but it doesn't expound on those and I haven't found any described online yet.  That's all I got. 
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08-01-2008
|  | woodland creature | | | | | Re: Environmental Study of Lechtenberg Park Nice one Turtle!
I wonder how some plants get the label "False" .. False lilly of the valley? What if the other lilly-of-the-valley is the False one?
I have 2 "false Cyprus" bonzais.. But where does the 'false' moniker come from?
Kinda curious.  | 
08-02-2008
|  | In the Spatula Zone |  Sponsor | | | | Re: Environmental Study of Lechtenberg Park Quote:
Originally Posted by Racoon Nice one Turtle!
I wonder how some plants get the label "False" .. False lilly of the valley? What if the other lilly-of-the-valley is the False one?
I have 2 "false Cyprus" bonzais.. But where does the 'false' moniker come from?
Kinda curious.  | For plant names, false usually means "looks like". I also believe it has to do with the order in which the plants are named. Solomon's seal is a plant that is native to Europe. False Solomon's seal is a plant that is native to North America. So when the Europeans came to the Americas and found the plant that looked like their native Solomon's seal, but wasn't, they named it False Solomon's seal. 
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