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Watch ABC's Catalyst on methane. It's good.... but I can't remember if it has the footage of methane bubbling up from the floor of the Arctic circle. There's columns of methane bubbling up from the ocean floor, as well as under the Siberian tundra.
Anyone see footage of scientists collecting methane in a plastic bag from tundra bubbles, and then narrowing the bag's "mouth", turning it right side up, and lighting the escaping methane? Pretty graphic.
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12-19-2008
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2008 Among 10 Warmest Years On Record
Thursday, 18 December 2008, 1:20 pm
Press Release: United Nations
2008 Among 10 Warmest Years On Record, UN Reports
New York, Dec 17 2008 3:10PM
The year 2008 is likely to rank as the 10th warmest year on record since the beginning of the instrumental climate records in 1850, although the global average temperature was slightly lower than previous years of the 21st century, according to the United Nations meteorological agency.
The combined sea-surface and land-surface air temperature for 2008 is estimated at 0.31 degrees Celsius (C) or 0.56 Fahrenheit (F), above the 1961-1990 annual average of 14C, or 57.2F, while the Arctic Sea ice volume during the melt season was its lowest since satellite measurements began in 1979, the UN World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said.
The average temperature of 2008 was moderated by La Niña, a weather phenomenon that shrinks the warm pool water in the central and western Pacific, which developed in the latter half of 2007.
Climate extremes, including devastating floods, severe and persistent droughts, snowstorms, and heat and cold waves, were recorded in many parts of the world, with above-average temperatures all over Europe and a remarkably cold winter over Eurasia stretching from Turkey to China, causing hundreds of casualties in Afghanistan and China.
In North America, February was a cold month with average daily temperatures in the Midwest of the United States ranging from 4C to 5C below normal in some areas, while in South America a very cold episode due to an early Antarctic air mass saw minimum temperature drop below –6C in May in central Argentina breaking annual absolute minimum records.
Conversely, mean July temperatures were more than 3C above average in large parts of Argentina, Paraguay, southeast Bolivia and southern Brazil, making it the warmest July in the last 50 years for many locations, while November broke historical records with central Argentina, including Buenos Aires city, experiencing its warmest November in 50 years.
In southern Australia, March brought a record heat wave with Adelaide experiencing its longest heat wave on record – 15 consecutive days of maximum temperatures above 35°C. Several heat waves also occurred in south-eastern Europe and the Middle East during April, with a very warm spring also observed in a large part of the rest of Europe and Asia.
Prolonged drought hit most parts of the southeast of North America at the end of July and hindered efforts to contain numerous large wildfires in California, while southern British Columbia in Canada experienced its fifth driest period in 61 years. In Europe, Portugal and Spain had their worst drought winter in decades, while in South America, a large part of Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay an intense drought which caused severe damage to agriculture.
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12-19-2008
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Nice report, thanks for that link.
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12-19-2008
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Yet another report
Is global warming preventing an Ice Age?

Dec. 17, 2008
Is global warming preventing an Ice Age?
Still seems to be a connection in everone's mind like:-
GW=hot/hotter
When in fact-
GW= Climate Change.
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12-19-2008
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Still seems to be a connection in everone's mind like:-
GW=hot/hotter
When in fact-
GW= Climate Change.
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Ding! Ding! Ding!
The problem is, it's much more difficult to analyze climate change compared to temp change. AGW is still a convincing theory, but indeed, it does not usually account for outlying climatic effects.
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12-22-2008
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Ding! Ding! Ding!
The problem is, it's much more difficult to analyze climate change compared to temp change. AGW is still a convincing theory, but indeed, it does not usually account for outlying climatic effects.
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Can somebody please tell Greenpeace ....
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12-22-2008
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The amazing opening of the Northwest Passage
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Ding! Ding! Ding!
The problem is, it's much more difficult to analyze climate change compared to temp change. AGW is still a convincing theory, but indeed, it does not usually account for outlying climatic effects.
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Can somebody please tell Greenpeace .... 
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Funny video, with a seasonal touch
While all but the most credulous children know no fat guys in red suits and sled-pulling caribou inhabit the Arctic Ocean pack ice, what the video alludes to, the shrinking of the Arctic Ocean icepack, is very real, and makes for dramatic graphics – see Arctic ice levels at record low opening Northwest Passage - Wikinews, the free news source, and this hypography post, which predates the major news by a couple of years. Being as its supporters and staff read and watch the news at least as closely as most people, I’m certain Greenpeace is as aware of it as any group of people.
Though images of drowning polar bears (and now seasick Santas, thank you very much  ) dominate the general media concerning the AOPI, many see a positive side to it. Since 2000, many yachtsfolk and some test commercial shipping has made the Northwest Passage, which was impassable and sought-after for centuries, demonstrating that it’s become a viable summer shipping lane. It may within a decade become viable year-round. Though the lack of major population centers that far north diminish business interest in this development, a generation of shippers and yachtsfolk are literally gaining a new ocean, making this IMHO an exciting time to be alive.
I’ve been sending out feelers for the last year for interest in a 2015-ish Arctic cruise. According to some of the most speculative empirical predictions, by then there’ll be clear water all the way to the geographic and magnetic north poles. Regardless of ones vision of the causes and consequences of global climate change, the prospect of reaching the north poles by surface boat is pretty amazing!
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Oil Spray Reduces Greenhouse Gas Emissions From Pig Finishing Barns
The study revealed average emissions of 32.5 g methane and 15.8 g carbon dioxide per day per animal unit (500 kg animal live weight) from the two barns.
Treatments of oil sprinkling, misting of essential oils, and misting of essential oils with water reduced the average emissions of methane by 20% and of carbon dioxide by 19%.
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Does Global Warming Lead To A Change In Upper Atmospheric Transport?
ScienceDaily (Dec. 24, 2008) — Most atmospheric models predict that the rate of transport of air from the troposphere to the above lying stratosphere should be increasing due to climate change.
Surprisingly, Dr. Andreas Engel together with an international group of researchers has now found that this does not seem to be happening. On the contrary, it seems that the air air masses are moving more slowly than predicted. This could also imply that recovery of the ozone layer may be somewhat slower than predicted by state-of-the-art atmospheric climate models.
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12-30-2008
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Funny video, with a seasonal touch
While all but the most credulous children know no fat guys in red suits and sled-pulling caribou inhabit the Arctic Ocean pack ice, what the video alludes to, the shrinking of the Arctic Ocean icepack, is very real, and makes for dramatic graphics...
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Yes, its a funny video....BUT, I do note that the Polar Bears wer'nt rescued
...is it because Polar Bears eat Reindeer ???......  ...them inconvenient meat-eaters ... Capy-tain sea shepherd would be happy
( I promise to get back to the serious side of this thread in the new year)
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