My belief in Global Warming is getting shaky

[goku]

Originally Posted by Essay

So where do you get your ideas?

um, that's a good question. where do ideas come from?
i do alot of thinking, and sometimes thoughts just come to me when i least expect it.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by goku

nope, i don't think there's any global warming.
i think it's important to question scientists as a system of checks and balances.

It aboslutely is important to question scientists (everything, for that matter). However, your post seems to imply that this does not already happen, but it does.

It's one thing to question, it's quite another to blindly ignore their inputs when they've already successfully withstood said questions.

[Thunderbird]

Originally Posted by REASON

Sure, but that's not the point is it?



You just say it's natural. Well, the rate of change is too fast, which is why scientist believe it's not natural. What is your issue with the science? What is your explanation for the rapid warming? What, if anything, can you show us?

Speaking of strange weather. How was yours this week?

Some places in southern Mo. got is much as 12'' of rain in one storm. This is not normal.

[REASON]

Originally Posted by goku

nope, i don't think there's any global warming.

Really. And why is that?

Originally Posted by goku

i think it's important to question scientists as a system of checks and balances.

Take a look around, goku. The effects of science are everywhere.....in your house, your car, on the street, in the fields, the crops, the soils, TV, air travel, rocket launches, dog breeding, the grocery store, air conditioning, electricity, firearms, your toilet, etc., etc, etc. You walk around utilizing and benefitting from science almost everywhere you go. Do you question virtually everything man-made you come across to maintain a system of checks and balances?

Why global warming? You're being evasive. What does it mean for you if you were to agree it is happening? Would it make you different than most of the people you know?

[REASON]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

Speaking of strange weather. How was yours this week?

We only had one day of rain, about an inch and a half or so.

But Southeastern Missouri is flooded.

What I have found most interesting recently is the record number of tornadoes in Missouri during the month of February. It is very unusual to have so many this early in the year.

I don't claim that these events are specifically related to global warming though. If climatologists are prepared to demonstrate a correlation, I'm sure I'll perk up to that.

[Thunderbird]

Originally Posted by REASON

We only had one day of rain, about an inch and a half or so.

But Southeastern Missouri is flooded.

What I have found most interesting recently is the record number of tornadoes in Missouri during the month of February. It is very unusual to have so many this early in the year.

I don't claim that these events are specifically related to global warming though. If climatologists are prepared to demonstrate a correlation, I'm sure I'll perk up to that.

If the waters in the gulf of Mexico are warmer that usual, which they are, its global warming. This is where the water came from.

[REASON]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

If the waters in the gulf of Mexico are warmer that usual, which they are, its global warming. This is where the water came from.

I tend to agree. The Gulf is where most all of our water comes from. Park a strong low pressure center in Oklahoma and toss in a cold front pushing down from Nebraska and we're gonna get some serious precip.

[goku]

Originally Posted by REASON

Really. And why is that?




Take a look around, goku. The effects of science are everywhere.....in your house, your car, on the street, in the fields, the crops, the soils, TV, air travel, rocket launches, dog breeding, the grocery store, air conditioning, electricity, firearms, your toilet, etc., etc, etc. You walk around utilizing and benefitting from science almost everywhere you go. Do you question virtually everything man-made you come across to maintain a system of checks and balances?

Why global warming? You're being evasive. What does it mean for you if you were to agree it is happening? Would it make you different than most of the people you know?

i believe that there are somethings that can't be explained or understood.
science created technology, there fore it is right about every thing else?
why global warming, this thread is about global warming.
i also don't believe the earth is billions of years old or that the dinosaurs where reptiles.

if i where to agree it would mean that i had been convinced.

[Zythryn]

Originally Posted by goku

i believe that there are somethings that can't be explained or understood.
science created technology, there fore it is right about every thing else?

Science is a method for describing the world we see around us. Quite often theories are refined as more evidence is discovered.
Sometimes a better theory is formed which replaces another theory which doesn't provide as good a fit to our observations.
In either case (refinement or replacement) you could say 'science' was wrong and corrected itself.
In terms of GW, we have observed that the climate is warming. If you choose to deny this observation I can certainly understand why you would deny any theory trying to explain why it is happening.
If you have any observations or evidence to base this denial on please do share it.
If you are denying it simply because you don't like science, you may be more interested in starting a new thread, or joining one of the ones that already exist, discussing the scientific theory and the philosophy of science.

[Michaelangelica]

Interesting site
BreathingEarth

See also my last post-quote in "Water where will it come from in 2050"