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I sometimes wonder while flying at night that if the sun did'nt raise the next morning, (God hit the off switch) how long before the global average temperature reached zero degrees C ? ... 12 hours, 24 hours ?

No answer yet ...I thought with all these atmospheric bofins about it would be an easy question ? I'm wondering also, just what would the earths atmosphere temperature stabalise at if 'God' turned off the sun... and while were at it, what would Venus' temp stabalise at sans Sun ? - should be the same eh ?

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I am not familiar with the heat retention of the atmosphere. I would suspect that if the sun disappeared it wouldn't take too long
Earth and Venus would both reach close to absolute zero I believe (probably about 3 degrees?) as both would be the same distance from the nearest heat source.
Currently they are NOT the same distance from the nearest heat source and have different atmospheric components so they do not heat to the same level.
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A much more relevant question to this thread is this:

Why is Venus hotter than Mercury? Mercury is the planet closer to the sun, not Venus! Could it be something to do with the atmosphere? Could it be that it's 96.5 % Co2? No, no! It's the fridge wormhole!

People don't realise that all the heat in our fridges is actually transported, via space-time wormhole, onto Venus. It's a proven scientific fact — I have my non-peer reviewed paper here ready to go! What, you're questioning me? That's narrow minded. I might have to hit my "IGNORE" button if you question me about it too much. Please allow me to discuss my theories, which are mine, which I am allowed to promulgate on any forum on the internet ever, because the theories are so wonderful. And relevant to the current discussion!
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Wheres that climate expert Essay ?

An easy hypothetical question I thought - if God turned off the sun, how long before the earths global average temp reached zero C ?
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There you have it everyone. The Global Warming thread has now degenerated to satisfying this sceptic's bizarre fantasies.
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Are you a sceptic Eclipse Now ?

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How about those spectrometers hey? Measuring Co2 wavelengths, and then a bit of math and we know how much extra energy is in the system. All from similar scientific disciplines that brings you microwave ovens, computers, cable TV... all that 'bandwidth' and 'fibre optics' stuff... all good hey? Except when they turn their scientifically deluded minds to global warming —*then all these scientists have a huge collective brain fart! You're happy to use your computer to send out messages basically calling into question the similar branches of physics, our understanding of light and energy waves, that allow the modern world.

Do they really get it right so many times —*except of course this time?
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I sometimes wonder while flying at night that if the sun did'nt raise the next morning, (God hit the off switch) how long before the global average temperature reached zero degrees C ? ... 12 hours, 24 hours ?

No answer yet ...I thought with all these atmospheric bofins about it would be an easy question ? I'm wondering also, just what would the earths atmosphere temperature stabalise at if 'God' turned off the sun... and while were at it, what would Venus' temp stabalise at sans Sun ? - should be the same eh ?

Apoligies if you carnt understand me, its probably my Oz mountain man accent
Earth's temp without the sun would be about 33K The Earth generates enough energy from the nuclear reactor at it's core to main tian this over millions of years. How fast it would get there is difficult to figure. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 4C would take several weeks at least then the oceans would slowly drop as the ocean radiated it's stored heat. it might take a few years for the entire surface of the planet to drop to 0C but then the temps would start to drop faster due to no more water vapor and the reflective nature of all the ice. When all the CO2 froze out the temps would start to drop even faster. N2 would rain out then O2 would go from vapor to ice like CO2. 33K might take a few years to some decades but it would happen. Venus would loose it's atmosphere somewhat slower at first but once the CO2 began to rain out the temps would drop as fast as the earths.


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...How fast it would get there is difficult to figure. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 4C would take several weeks at least then the oceans would slowly drop as the ocean radiated it's stored heat. it might take a few years for the entire surface of the planet to drop to 0C but then the temps would start to drop faster due to no more water vapor and the reflective nature of all the ice. When all the CO2 froze out the temps would start to drop even faster...
Moontanman, my understanding of the underlined part of your post is a 4 degree celsius drop over several weeks - have I understood correctly ? perhaps a typeing error ?

The ISA surface temp (thats where we humans live) is about 15C International Standard Atmosphere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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