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I think that we do have the infrastructure in place to eliminate a lot of commuting to the office to sit in front of a computer and go to meetings, when we could do actually do this from home. There has been some movement in this direction, but I think there is a LOT of unnecessary commuting going on.
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Indeed. If you could only convince my boss of this, I'd gladly work from home. Some of us have even offered to work the extra time we save by not sitting in traffic for 45 minutes (one-way) getting to the office. This would increase the company's profits, which they seem to be myopically tuned to in any other situation.
But, we're still trying...
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If you could only convince my boss of this, I'd gladly work from home
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We have to figure out a way to make the true cost of all the unnecessary commuting visible to the bosses, and at the national level.
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07-24-2008
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We have to figure out a way to make the true cost of all the unnecessary commuting visible to the bosses, and at the national level.
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Unless your company is paying for your commute, it is not going to be concerned with the costs. Any savings will be realized by the employee and...well...they don't really care about that.
If I could be equally productive at home, they would not be aware if it were possible to get more out of me because they wouldn't know how I'm actually spending my time. If they become aware that I am wasting time at work reading Hypo threads, they can give me more to do. If I'm at home, they can't.
Being able to physically monitor me seems to be important to their ability to determine if they are getting their monies worth out of me.
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Unless your company is paying for your commute, it is not going to be concerned with the costs. Any savings will be realized by the employee and...well...they don't really care about that.
If I could be equally productive at home, they would not be aware if it were possible to get more out of me because they wouldn't know how I'm actually spending my time. If they become aware that I am wasting time at work reading Hypo threads, they can give me more to do. If I'm at home, they can't.
Being able to physically monitor me seems to be important to their ability to determine if they are getting their monies worth out of me.
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Well, obviously it won't work for everyone, I just think it could work for a lot more than those who are currently doing it.
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Working from home and not commuting will definitely help. Every little bit, ya know?
My company actually has a whole program for it, where they pay for your broadband and phone, and they do an ergonomic review to make sure you have good chairs and desk at home, and will help fund them if you do not. It's pretty cool. While I keep my desk in the office, I work from home very often.
Either way, that's just a small piece in the puzzle. Good discussion. I think we must try. 
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There's other options too. Working at home just one day a week, for example, would help, or going to a 10 hour/day four-day work week.
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Working at home just one day a week, for example, would help, or going to a 10 hour/day four-day work week.
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I've got an even better idea. Let's shift to a four-day 8hrs/day work week.
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i just love the thought of gore preaching about global warming while he flies in his private jet
isn't oil the natural solar energy?
seems to me that releasing carbon from it's oily state would allow for more life on the planet.
if the government changes anything they'll have nothing to campain on for the next term
harvest the radiation from nuclear waste to produce electricity
just a few thoughts
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i just love the thought of gore preaching about global warming while he flies in his private jet
isn't oil the natural solar energy?
seems to me that releasing carbon from it's oily state would allow for more life on the planet.
if the government changes anything they'll have nothing to campain on for the next term
harvest the radiation from nuclear waste to produce electricity
just a few thoughts
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A well thought out, deeply considered, and oft repeated position goku.
I take it that you'd rather attack old targets than try to make things better with the rest of us?
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Well, obviously it won't work for everyone, I just think it could work for a lot more than those who are currently doing it.
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I love the idea. I think every little bit helps too. Some of us just aren't able to work for a company as progressive as INow's.
I really like Freezsicle's idea too. I've often thought of the benefits of a three day weekend.
goku?................nevermind.
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