New fuel efficient cars

[Michaelangelica]

"I know nothik" -schultz about this topic but figured others would.

What do you think of this Oz NRMA report?

New fuel efficient cars - NRMA Motoring & Services

[Zythryn]

Happy to hear more efficient cars are selling.
The cars they list are really not extrordinary. Sure, a good step towards the good end, but nothing new.
For $36,000 you can have a Prius that gets 100mpg (varies from 75-150mpg depending on driving style and distance). That is about 2.4 liters/100km.
This is the type of technology I would like to see from auto manufacturers.

[alexander]

For $36,000 you can have a Prius that gets 100mpg (varies from 75-150mpg depending on driving style and distance).

yes or about 14 k over the general price, as i have calculated.

All i want is an extra set of batteries, a plug, to charge the batteries, and, last but not least, a carbon fiber photovoltaic roof

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by alexander

yes or about 14 k over the general price, as i have calculated.

All i want is an extra set of batteries, a plug, to charge the batteries, and, last but not least, a carbon fiber photovoltaic roof

I would like to be able to afford the $36,000 car

[Zythryn]

Originally Posted by alexander

yes or about 14 k over the general price, as i have calculated.

All i want is an extra set of batteries, a plug, to charge the batteries, and, last but not least, a carbon fiber photovoltaic roof

Actually it is about 11k over, the original cost 25k.
However, a number of people have made their own conversions for around 3k (typically I believe these use lead or nickel batteries rather than Lithium.

That said, since college kids are doing this on their own, I still don't see why the auto companies are taking so very long to do the same thing.

[alexander]

yes, but you can get a waaay better battery, and its more environmentally friendly.

i was talking about a conversion involving one of these:
https://www.a123systems.com/hymotion...range_extender

that accounts for about 10k

now a solar roof, that makes about 2-300watts, runs you 2k-7k, with a $2000 credit from the federal gov, that means that you are spending about 5k at max, which gets to 15k, which is essentially what i was saying, a system for about 14k over the cost of the car... gets you a 150 or so mpg car...

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[alexander]

I'm still waiting for the X1 prototype to be made publicly available...

[TheBigDog]

Originally Posted by Zythryn

Actually it is about 11k over, the original cost 25k.
However, a number of people have made their own conversions for around 3k (typically I believe these use lead or nickel batteries rather than Lithium.

That said, since college kids are doing this on their own, I still don't see why the auto companies are taking so very long to do the same thing.

One word: litigation. It is far easier for an individual to modify their own car accepting responsibility for the consequences of their actions, than for a car company to be legally safeguarded from the consequences of taking those same actions.

Bill

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ZAP will offer a new photovoltaic panel option for its three-wheeled Xebra Xero models. Xebras get their main charge from a standard 110 volt outlet, but the solar panel can power short-distance trips all on its own.

how did I miss this? Now I really want one of their trucks (I already thought they'd be a cool toy, but this would make it possible for me to make the thirty mile trip to work with the lil bugger and then after the trip home (ten hours of charge should be more than enough I'd think). I wonder if they'll offer the solar option for their 4 wheeled trucks