Science Forums - Theology forum http://hypography.com/forums/ Discussion about the social, philosophical and political impact of religion. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:40 GMT vBulletin 60 http://hypography.com/forums/images/styles/new_facebook/images/misc/rss.jpg Science Forums - Theology forum http://hypography.com/forums/ The Freedom to Say What You Think or Not? Ban on Blasphemy Proposed. http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21466-freedom-say-what-you-think-not-ban-blasphemy-proposed.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:47:42 GMT Muslim countries seek blasphemy ban - United Nations- msnbc.com... Muslim countries seek blasphemy ban - United Nations- msnbc.com

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One American expert with more than 20 years experience of the U.N. human rights system said the treaty could have far-reaching implications.

"It would, in essence, advance a global blasphemy law," said Felice Gaer, a member of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. The independent, congressionally mandated panel issued a report last week warning that existing laws against blasphemy, including in Pakistan, "often have resulted in gross human rights violations."

In Egypt, blasphemy laws have been used to suppress dissidents, said Moataz el-Fegiery, executive director of the Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies. Abdel Kareem Nabil, a blogger, was sentenced in February 2007 to four years in prison for insulting Islam and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.
Could be very troubling for atheists, agnostics, and scientists who may be blamed or accused of blasphemy for writing, saying, or working on what they believe. ]]> Theology forum maikeru http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21466-freedom-say-what-you-think-not-ban-blasphemy-proposed.html Faith in Religion http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21370-faith-religion.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:29:45 GMT What happened to faith-based religion? If you have faith, why do you nead Creation Science? ... What happened to faith-based religion?

If you have faith, why do you nead Creation Science? Aren't faith and its informing beliefs much better than a human-designed system based on scientific observation?

When I was 12 and trying to decide if I was going to be a minister, I started reading books on religion. They led me to books on philosophy, which led to sociology, psychology, and political science as ways of getting things done in the world. Of course, in the meantime, I had discovered I could write, so I started creating things other people would have to read.

I noticed something in my reading, something I hadn't found the words for it until now, that science was not included in the study of theology, any more than theology was included in the study of science.

Faith is the basis of Western religion. Has that religion lost its faith? Or is it now placing its faith in a substitute for science--attempting to replace a discipline so different as to pose no threat to faith in God?

--lemit ]]> Theology forum lemit http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21370-faith-religion.html How I recovered from a 12 year breakdown http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21293-how-i-recovered-12-year-breakdown.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:19:16 GMT *WHAT I WISH I HAD KNOWN DURING MY YOUTH* How I recovered from a 12 year nervous breakdown... WHAT I WISH I HAD KNOWN DURING MY YOUTH

How I recovered from a 12 year nervous breakdown (1966-78)
I’m 70 years old

My name is Rodger Tutt. I am 70 years old. I could have avoided a horrific twelve year nervous breakdown (1966-78) had I known as a youth about the following information concerning what a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaches.

You can access my website through Google by typing in hope4you rodger tutt, or
My website is [link removed]

You can also access most of the following writings through Google by typing in the title.

BOOKS THAT SHOW THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION,
THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF WHICH CAN BE READ ONLINE

If necessary, copy and paste the following urls into the address bar.

0. ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST – Charles Slagle
1. HOPE BEYOND HELL - Gerry Beauchemin (recently published)
2. CHRIST TRIUMPHANT - Thomas Allin
3. THE BIBLE HELL - J.W. Hanson
4. THE ORIGIN AND HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT – Thomas Thayer
5. THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE – Dr. Loyal Hurley
6. JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN "HELL" - J. Preston Eby
7. ONE HUNDRED SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT JESUS CHRIST WILL SAVE ALL MANKIND - Thomas Whittemore
8. TWENTY-FOUR SERMONS ON UNIVERSAL SALVATION – John Bovee Dods
9. THE SECOND DEATH AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS – Andrew Jukes
10. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION OF ALL MANKIND – Erasmus Manford
11. THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS – J. Patching
12. BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT DO NOT TEACH ETERNAL TORMENT – Gary Amirault
13. AION – AIONIOS – John Wesley Hanson
14. BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED – John Wesley Hanson
15. THE CASE OF JUDAS, ETCETERA
16. THE PROBLEM OF EVIL – John Essex
AND THE ROLE OF THE ADVERSARY – James Webb
17. HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE – James Coram
18. THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS – Andrew Jukes
19. THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS – George Hawtin
20. THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD SERIES – J. Preston Eby
ESPECIALLY THIS ONE IN THAT SERIES
21. THE PURPOSE OF EVIL
22. TEN REASONS NOT TO BELIEVE THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL TORTURE
23. IS HELL ETERNAL OR WILL GOD’S PLAN FAIL? -
24. THE PROBLEM OF EVIL AND THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD – A.E. Knoch
25. GOD’S EONIAN PURPOSE
26. A TREASURE HOUSE OF CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL UNIVERSALISM ARTICLES ]]> Theology forum rodgertutt http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21293-how-i-recovered-12-year-breakdown.html A phone conversation with a Muslim missionary http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21292-phone-conversation-muslim-missionary.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:09:29 GMT *A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH A MUSLIM MISSIONARY* A Muslim missionary called me on my ministry... A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH A MUSLIM MISSIONARY

A Muslim missionary called me on my ministry phone in response to my newspaper ad “HELL IS NOT ENDLESS.”
(I have sent out many hundreds of packets of literature to people who responded to these ads that I have put in two of Toronto’s largest newspapers since 1981.)

The Muslim missionary said “Unless you convert to Islam you WILL go to hell.”

I said, “That’s what some Christians say if I don’t convert to Christianity.”

He said, “But the difference is that Islam has the truth.”

I said, “That’s what some Christians say about their beliefs.”

He said, “After you die you will learn that the Koran is the word of God and Islam has the truth.”

I said, “I guess I’ll just have to wait until then to find out for sure.”

He said, “But it will be too late for you then.”

I laughed and said, “That’s exactly what some Christians say.”

I don’t think he thought it was funny.

I then expected him to say what a Mormon missionary said to me in Montreal. “At the judgment, as you are being cast into hell, I will point my finger at you and say, ‘I told you so. I gave you a chance but you didn’t take it and now it’s too late’.”

It seems that we are supposed to believe that millions of Muslims, by sheer “accident” of birth, are born into a belief system that teaches their children that even to consider Christianity to be the truth will land them in an eternity of suffering in hell.

I believe that the horrific false doctrine of endless suffering in hell causes more suffering here on earth than any other idea that people believe. That is why it gives me such great pleasure to offer people the urls that contain evidence that the Bible does not support such a concept of God.

Just Google up TENTMAKER and use the search engine at the top of the front page. Type in a key word from any argument or Bible verse and ten articles will appear refuting the idea that the Bible teaches eternal torment or annihilation. Then click to the next page and ten more articles will appear, and so on and so on for many pages. Or click on [link removed] Jesus saves all mankind, the truly Good News, Christian universalism--Ultimate Reconcilation--Doctrine of Inclusion--Restitution of all--Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, Gospel of the Bible

Also Google up
THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD SERIES
or
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST
Or
UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY
to find A LOT of scriptural evidence that God has both the ability and the intention to eventually save all fallen creatures from everything from which they need to be saved.
Or click on
[link removed]Savior of the World Series
or
[link removed]absolute assurance in jesus christ
or
[link removed]Universal Salvation University ]]> Theology forum rodgertutt http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/21292-phone-conversation-muslim-missionary.html