[Turtle]

I was just thinking how if they might have piled the King's chamber full of bicarb (they had that, right?) & then smashed jars of vinegar in there that you'd get giant fountains of spume spraying at high pressure out those serious Sirius shafts like with the coke & mentos or such-a-matter. That'll put the scare in the non-believers a'right. The people catch the falling foam in cups and drink it for rations. Voila! Manna from heaven.

[Theory5]

yes the ancient egyptian slaves were fed a beer mixed with stuff like bread. This kept them from starving and it also put them to sleep at night so they wouldnt revolt or become rowdy. I do not know if they were fed this in the morning, they might have just gotten fed at night.

[alexander]

Lets start with the obvious mistake made by just about everyone who replied to this thread, let me correct by stating the following:

No slaves were used in building the pyramids, it's a fact, so stop calling them slaves, give them the respect they earned, and please refer to them workers!

[alexander]

mk, everyone got quiet here for some reason, so let me continue reasoning that part out.

No slaves were used in the building of the pyramids, because people that built the pyramids wanted to build them, and that already constitutes a workforce, not slavery. They were paid, they were fed, and they were buried under the stones left over from the pyramid construction. They had hierarchy, they had extensive medical care and normalize work schedule. They were also working for their own god, in their belief, and had a built infrastructure of people that were responsible for food and clothing of the pharaoh's workers, yes there is evidence that they made a sort of a barley wine, that workers were able to enjoy to relax and get better sleep. All this comes out of recently discovered tombs of workers, especially officers, on the walls of which designs depicting more-or-less everyday life of what you guys refer to as "slaves" were depicted (hehe literally)

[alexander]

speaking of ancient Egypt. Have a question to the general population that perhaps better suited for a strange claims forum, or at least its own topic.

The more i read about ancient Egypt, and the more i read about ancient Egypt technology and methods, the less it seems that ancient Egyptians could build some of the things they are given credit for building... Give you an example of something, let's say the obelisks, I have read reports on various ways that scientist believe that they could build them. I just saw a Nat Geo program on it, where one more scientist decided to attempt to show how one can move that much rock, to make the quarrying of such an immense rock quicker then the older methods proposed, by heating up the cracks and then pouring water and then chipping away the loosened stone. I still can not see how one gets perfectly smooth sides and perfect 90 degree edges... have you ever tried to chip at even a softer rock with a big round boulder to get a perfect 90 degree, smooth edge? and then multiply it by like 20-30 meters, and really hard granite... Something just does not make sense. Another example are the sarcophagi made of grey granite, an even harder material, sometimes polished to a grade 4-5, perfectly flat, or even perfectly concentric, with edges so tight that no light gets inside the inner chamber after the lid's placement on top. And even more mystery causes a look i got at a picture of an unfinished lid...

[Theory5]

Originally Posted by alexander

mk, everyone got quiet here for some reason, so let me continue reasoning that part out.

No slaves were used in the building of the pyramids, because people that built the pyramids wanted to build them, and that already constitutes a workforce, not slavery. They were paid, they were fed, and they were buried under the stones left over from the pyramid construction. They had hierarchy, they had extensive medical care and normalize work schedule. They were also working for their own god, in their belief, and had a built infrastructure of people that were responsible for food and clothing of the pharaoh's workers, yes there is evidence that they made a sort of a barley wine, that workers were able to enjoy to relax and get better sleep. All this comes out of recently discovered tombs of workers, especially officers, on the walls of which designs depicting more-or-less everyday life of what you guys refer to as "slaves" were depicted (hehe literally)

Are you sure? Because I seem to recall a passage from Temple about pass-over. Does the phrase "let my people go" mean anything? I am going for historical accuracy because I am jewish and I belive in everyone being on the same page.
One common practice of slavery was to promote certain slaves over others and have them answer to the slavers, which might answer your last sentence.

[alexander]

theory... that's all you are going to base your point of view on? a religious scripture?

ok fine, here is the one that sort of breaks your reasoning... The last pyramid was completed be 1550-1525bc. The exodus dates Moses to be born in 1393. At this point there has not been a pyramid built in 200 years. they were not building a pyramid, and at the time egypt may have started using slaves for building other structures. If you recall, i said that no slaves were used in building of pyramids, that only implies pyramids, not later structures...

also i wont claim that egyptians were not using slaves for other projects, but pyramids, i believe, were not built by slaves...

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by orbsycli

I can recall memories of someone telling me or reading somewhere that the ancient egyptions who worked on the pyramids were given

radishes
seriously!
Also beer would have been more nutritious and contained a lotus flower or two.

[alexander]

beer sounds good right about now... jotting upstairs to grab one

btw anyone not with me when i say that pyramids were not built using slaves?

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by alexander

beer sounds good right about now... jotting upstairs to grab one

btw anyone not with me when i say that pyramids were not built using slaves?

I think Moses gave the Pyramid builders a bum rap and his control of the media was a lot better.

radishes
A strage one as we hardly see them these days ( at least the little red ones)
But radish just means "root' so god knows what plant it was botanically.
Has anyone any clues?
Orientals Eat Giant Radishes
Ancient Egypt: Fruit and vegetables
Radishes R Us

During the pyramid building, workers were given enormous amounts of radish, garlic and onion. Herodotus has mentioned in his second book, Euterpe:
“There is an inscription in Egyptian characters on the pyramid which records the quantity of radishes, onions, and garlic consumed by the laborers who constructed it; and I perfectly well remember that the interpreter who read the writing to me said that the money expended in this way was 1600 talents of silver”.

Only during the 20th century AD when an antibiotic preparation (Raphanin) has been extracted from radish, and Allicin and Allistatin from garlic and onion. A wise procedure undertaken in such an overcrowded camp.

Medicine in Ancient Egypt 3