So i have mentioned this in the egyptian rations thread, today i was discussing this with a friend, so i decided to post up my side of the conversation, figuring that we may get either a good discussion, or a eye-opener going here
lets start here:
"here would be some preface to my theory
i have read a fair amount about egypt
especially about egyptian engineering, and stone working techniques, i have read about monuments, i have read about quarrying, stones, and how modern science thinks that it was all put together
i have to say that i have also not been to egypt, yet, but i have a hunch that would just completely up my theory status by providing concrete evidence...
here is the thing too, you see, most egyptian monuments and statues and "achevements" fall into 2 general types of rock: smaller soft rock, such as the one used in the pyramids, and many temples (smaller is a relative term, smaller means that the rocks are merely tens or hundreds of tons). The second rock is the one that interest me the most, its the hard granite, grey granite, quartz and other really, really hard rock
the interesting thing is that many of things that are made of that hard rock, are made with pieces much bigger, and much more precise then the rock used in say the great pyramid
and although to most people, pyramid is a great achievement, and that it is, it requires less technology to build then something made out of a much larger slab of rock, like say a sarcophagus..."
after making some tea, i'm back
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questions, so far?
Ok, so here is the thing, i understand that with perseverance may come near perfection, problem is, perseverance takes a lot of time, and it takes even more time with simple tools, and both quarrying with simple tools, and cutting perfect shapes out of hard rock, is not something that is either simple, nor fast.
I must now make a distinction, between near perfection and perfection. A rock is a hard material that, back in those days, most historical engineers claim that was done by using dimple stone on stone grinding and stone on stone chipping
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at this point my friend had to go, so here is the continuation of the thought:
the problem is, there is no way to putty any kind of an imperfection in a hard rock, thus the work that had been done to that point, would have to have been redone, if the perfection had to be achieved, and the problem is that too many things made of this hard grey granite was perfect, not nearly perfect, 100% perfect, to this day, 100% perfect, so perfect, it would take months to do on the modern machinery, if some of that was even possible on the modern machinery... If it took 10 times longer to do it with the Egyptian technology, at this point stretching work to many years, a simple grumpy work attitude, or a disagreement with your wife, and you would have to restart work, and in 5-7 years, there is plenty of opportunity to have something go wrong, and there are too many artifacts in egypt to make up for redoing good work.
Lastly i have to say that while there is a way to date the stone, and remains of people, there is no way to find out when a particular stone was cut, thus making an intreaguing thought pop in my head one day, and that is my theory on ancient Egypt.
So one day thinking about various aspects of egypt that did not make any sense to me, possibility-wise, because too much things did not stick, for example, modern rock saws that can cut a piece of grey granite into a top for a sarcophagus, 3 by 4.5 meters in size, would have the thickness of the blade nearing 15-17mm, thats with modern day carbonated steel, ceramics and diamond powder. Ancients had no mention of any such technology, i mean at some point they were excited to make bronze, and that discovery is far too late, and the metal is still far too brittle to cut this type of hard stones, which brings an interesting question, on the unfinished sarcophagi, where the gap of the cut is sometimes less then 3-5mm, there is no way that an ancient with a giant round stone could have banged that through, and created a flawless surface on top of all of this. The sarcophagi with the lids that have a curved face on them, the face is perfect perfectly round all the way, like they took a giant saw (talking 6-7 meters across) and just let it loose and then finished it all off with a polishing wheel to a smoothness that takes literaly weeks of polishing with a hydraulic or pneumatic machine and diamond dust polishes and heads, a technology far out of the reach of the ancients. When you see holes boared through some granite, with obvious cut groves on the sides, a couple of inches across, and several feet high. You look at test holes, maybe 2 feet wide, and 6-7 feet high, that the current construction theories say "were made by a man with a round stone, chipping away for a long time... But the surface is cut perfect, all the way down, all the sides are perfect, and a man with a round stone could barely stand in the "manhole" never mind hitting a large boulder against a big ass mountain.
After being confuzzled by all of this, nonsense, i think that only two logical answers may be found (and please correct me if you think that it may be something else):
Theory one: Egyptians were actually smarter then we think, and were using advanced technologies that none of them could have conceived at the time. Thus pushing us to believe of an intervention of a much more advances beings...
Theory two: Perhaps egypt built their monuments, cities, statues, etc, around things they themselves could not explain, around giant statues cut out of a rock, weighing thousands of tons, build their toumbes around the areas of sarcophagi that they found themselves, and worshiped a more advanced race (and scriptures that refer to this, some may have heard of atlantians) that went extinct prior to egyptians occupying the land...
tis it for now, i want some tea, so, you guys have at it, ask questions, or argue the opposite, find evidence to crush the theories, and with any luck, something cool may come out of this
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