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| | | An Inconvenient..... Question Hello all, I hail from the land of Oz.
Background - poorly educated farm boy on a quest for knoweledge and learnin (Caint spell and hope you excuse the poor wordage)
Very briefly, I own near a million trees/shrubs, eat meat, believe science researchers are the REAL heros of the world (not the movie stars), hate violent movies (except depictions of real events) and am near 97.35% certain that the AGW claims are nonsence.
Some say a persons choice in movies says a lot about them, well if so, Favorite movie - Big Rocks and Long Props. Movie I found most disturbing - Schindlers List. Best comedy movie - An Inconvenient Truth. | 
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|  | Resident Diabolist | | | | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question WElcome.
How are you 97.35% sure? Why not 98.201%?
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question If you're hero's are scientist why would you think that their climate predictions are a joke? 
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question Hello, sanctus and Thunderbird. looks like I jumped in the deep end here Quote: |
How are you 97.35% sure? Why not 98.201%
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If you're hero's are scientist why would you think that their climate predictions are a joke
| Its not the 'real' scientists that amuse me... | 
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Binghi Hello, sanctus and Thunderbird. looks like I jumped in the deep end here
Its not the 'real' scientists that amuse me... | You do not believe climatologist are real scientist. Quote:
Scientific opinion on climate change
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National and international science academies and professional societies have assessed the current scientific opinion on climate change, in particular recent "/wiki/Global_warming". These assessments have largely followed or endorsed the position that "An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities." l "cite_note-IPCC_WG1-0"
This article documents "/wiki/Scientific_opinion" as given by synthesis reports, scientific bodies of national or international standing, and surveys of opinion among climate scientists. It does not document the views of individual scientists, individual universities or laboratories, nor "/wiki/Self-selection" lists of individuals such as petitions
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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi Its not the 'real' scientists that amuse me... | So any scientists that support a theory you don't like are not real? 
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question All right, try this one -
via the late Reid Bryson
“All this argument is the temperature going up or not, it’s absurd, of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air.” | 
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|  | Creating |  Sponsor | | | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question At least that is a position that points to something as an alternate theory.
However, why is it that we have seen a rate of increase more significantly in the last 30 years?
It really all boils down to CO2. If you can refute the energy absorbtion patterns of CO2 you unravel the whole thing.
If you can't then adding CO2 to the atmosphere will warm it. We are adding CO2 to the atmosphere and it is warming.
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why is it that we have seen a rate of increase more significantly in the last 30 years?
| I think it may have a lot to do with the siteing of climate monitoring stations in the USA and butterflys
......and as this is my 'introduction' post thread, I'm not going to provide any references  | 
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|  | Creating |  Sponsor | | | | Re: An Inconvenient..... Question DOH!!
I don't want to take this off topic, so back on topic:
Welcome to the board 
I look forward to your contribution to the forum and will save discussions about GW for other threads 
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