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Re: hallucinations

thank you for the replies. So I guess the best way to hallucinate is to either reduce sleep or starve (for how many days?1)

Also, the main question is what do you experience when you halluciantate? .... desires, fears?
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thank you for the replies. So I guess the best way to hallucinate is to either reduce sleep or starve (for how many days?1)
I will probably be wrong, but I am going to assume Infinite is a diabetic. That being the case the hallucinations are warranted, if he is not diabetic then I do not know, I've never heard of someone hallucinating from not eating food for such a short period of time.

If you are going to starve yourself you may have to go over a week, plenty of people have not eaten for 2 weeks and lived without hallucinating, IMO, if you start to hallucinate because you've stared yourself for that long then it's one of the last signs of your body dying.
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As Infinite said, it all depends. Everything around you and what you've done in the past all effect a hallucination. If you have never heard of nor seen spongebob then you will not see him in a hallucination.
There are many types of hallucinations, aswell.
Sense hallucinations affect your senses in different ways.
  • Taste
  • Visual
  • Touch
  • Smell
  • Hearing

Mental hallucinations are hallucinations that combine one or more of the above types.
Taste
This hallucination gives you the sense of having a taste in your mouth from a substance that is not truly there.

Visual
This hallucination causes you to see objects, people, or places that are not truly with you.

Touch
This hallucination makes you feel as if something is crawling on your skin when in fact there is nothing. The textbook spiders crawling on your hand.

Smell
This hallucination causes you to smell fumes of something that does not radiate fumes or is not actually there.

Hearing
This hallucination causes one to hear things such as voices or random noises that are no actually happening.

Mental
Often called Extreme Daydreaming , this is the combination of any or all of the sense hallucinations combined into one episode.

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Some also call dreaming an unconscious hallucination, there is a fine line between normal dreaming, often during REM sleep, and psychotic dreaming, such as dreams of you killing someone. Whether these are truly hallucinations is your own opinion.
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Post Documented and personal accounts of sleep depravation

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Actually, when on an amphetamine, such as methamphetamine, people can stay alert and super-energetic for more than 5 days. I have stayed up over 48 hours when my great-grandfather was in the hospital and I never felt the need for sleep; I never went into a state like a zombie either.
I will try and find a study or something similar.
*** Also the USMC (Marines) is infamous for making new enlistees stay up over 2 days on a last "mission" to become a marine. No explaining is needed on if they were alert or not.
Edit: Here is a study that is testing sleep deprivation on drivers, the subjects went as much as 2 days without sleep.
Effects of Partial and Total Sleep Deprivation On Driving Performance
There are reports of people apparently staying awake for impressive periods of time. Randy Gardner’s 1964 Guinness world record of 264 hours is, I think … well, the world record. Various witness observed Gardner more-or-less continuously during his 11 day effort, reporting that he appeared awake the entire time, though not cognitively normal.

It’s arguable, however, if Gardner or other people who report staying awake for extraordinary durations are actually, neurologically, awake the whole time. A difficulty is that it’s hard to tell if a person briefly drifts into sleep, or is just tired, confused, or distracted. Though there are a variety of measurements, include EEG “brain wave” measurement, that can give indications of whether a person is awake or asleep, but these occasionally indicate that a self-reported sleeping person is awake, or an awake person asleep.

I’ve some experience with driving a car for very long periods without sleep (30+ hours). It’s a bit spooky – though I don’t recall any loss of alertness, occasionally I’d note a “jump” in odometer reading of a couple of miles, evidence that I was DWS. Also, roadsigns would sometimes appear for town I’d later realize were nowhere near where I’d been, and on one occasion I have a distinct memory of driving for the better part of an hour beside a vast lake nestled in the mountains of West Virginia, although there’s no lake in WV wider than about a kilometer.

My wife once drove a car into a reservoir while crossing an imaginary bridge under the influence of sleep depravation. DWS is certainly not a safe activity.
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Post Sleed deprivation, starvation, dehydration, and anecdotes of halucinations and dreams

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thank you for the replies. So I guess the best way to hallucinate is to either reduce sleep or starve (for how many days?1)
I don’t think fasting commonly causes hallucinations. I’ve personally fasted for 7 days, and read accounts of people who have fasted longer, without reporting any effects more severe than light-headedness, mild euphoria, and lethargy.

Dehydration can cause hallucinations (Coleridge’s “The Rime of the Ancient Mariner” is by most accounts a second-hand account of a dehydrated 18th century sailor) but is very dangerous – a day or two without water can prove suddenly fatal.
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Though there are some typical hallucinations, such as those I mention in post #2, I suspect hallucinations and “waking dreams” vary a lot among individuals, so the best that people can offer is their own varied experiences. I’ve never personally experienced, nor heard a firsthand account of, an hallucination or waking dreams that clearly involved a hope or fear. These experiences are, I think, usually fairly ordinary-seeming, whimsical, or creepy and disturbing (“faces in the leaves”-type hallucination/misperceptions can be very creepy).
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Try not eating. When my blood sugar gets low, I hallucinate like a son of a bitch.

Your question is a bit like asking, "how much food is enough to satisfy a hunger." Well... it depends on just how hungry you are, what else you've been doing (running around and riding bikes, or sleeping or playing PS3), and what type of food you eat (rice cakes or bowls of pasta or steaks)...

No absolute answer on that question, friend, except that it's relative.
Hmm, interesting. I never hallucinate when my blood sugar drops too low (and this happens more often than I'd like, if I'm not careful, because sometimes I'm too physically active in my exercise or dance practices; don't always eat enough to cover calorie expenditure). But I do become dopey, sleepy, and very, very slow.
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Some also call dreaming an unconscious hallucination, there is a fine line between normal dreaming, often during REM sleep, and psychotic dreaming, such as dreams of you killing someone. Whether these are truly hallucinations is your own opinion.
I don't believe normal dreaming is strongly connected with hallucination. Both may access memories or fabricate pseudo-memories or sensations, but REM-related dreaming seems to be part of an integral process of how the mind sorts, stores, and modifies learning and experience of the previous day or days. I don't think hallucinating helps a person to learn better.

Hallucinations may be more related to "out of body" experiences or the experiences some people give of their encounters with the "afterlife" ("tunnel," "door," or "ladder" visions people claim to see when on the brink of death or having died and been brought back to life.) I think those are caused by oxygen and nutrient deprivations to the neurons and a failure of homeostasis, as the brain and all of its constituents, begin to fail and lose control, so that organization, communication, and sensation become skewed.
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Perhaps more of an NDE than a hallucination, but...

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I will probably be wrong, but I am going to assume Infinite is a diabetic.
That's affirmative Fatstep, you're spot on. (btw, that was a very nice post. )

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Hmm, interesting. I never hallucinate when my blood sugar drops too low (and this happens more often than I'd like, if I'm not careful, because sometimes I'm too physically active in my exercise or dance practices; don't always eat enough to cover calorie expenditure). But I do become dopey, sleepy, and very, very slow.
Maybe I should clarify what I mean, as it's perfectly reasonable that the concept of a hallucination (while defined in multiple dictionaries) is different to us all.

I've been extraordinarily low (hypoglyc) on a few occasions. To the point where I was laying on the floor, sort of awake, but unable to will myself to move. A strange feeling, very much akin to those dreams people describe where they are being chased but cannot run. (A quick mention to my dog, Galiath, who has helped me wake up on more than one occasion by barking intensely and licking my ears... good boy! ).

It's super strange, like the simple act of moving toward the food is taking too much energy away from breathing and heart beat, that I must move inches then stop to rest, then move inches again, then stop to rest... then, calmly mind you, ingest something with high sugar density (i.e. panic is really bad because it burns away the remaining energy too quickly, so everything must be smooth and steady...)

The hallucinations vary, and hallucination may not be the right term, but I usually connect to the environment in new ways, have a sense of unity or oneness with the universe, and have even had the sense of watching my own consciousness as if it were a movie. Like I'm there, but my body and mind are on autopilot, no intentional control from me... It's so hard to capture in succinct words the vastness and bewilderment of these experiences. I've rewritten this paragraph like three times now and still don't think it gets across adequately my intent...

I've worked out too hard as well, and see what happens during a hypoglycemic episode more as the shutting out of non-essential stimuli, internally directing all available energy to the functions required for life and finding food quickly. In some ways, it's a bit zen...

Love that honey. Cheers.

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I love hallucinating.

You can go into a dark cave for a week (with provisions, obviously....unless you want to starve to hallucinate, too)

It is to my understanding that light deprivation for days gets 5-meo-dmt flowing through you, a psychedelic, allowing you to see in the dark.
Everything Glows.
You're close to god...

I've never done it, supposedly Jesus did. Try it.

Another way to hallucinate is shamanism; Entheogenic substances.

But watch out!!

The american government made these beautiful keys illegal 'cause they don't want you to SEE.
(Lumped them into the "drugs" catagory.
Examples with their natural source: Psilocybin (mushrooms) LSD (ergot) Mescaline (peyote) DMT (Your brain HAHAHAHA. And some types of grass, and vine, and toad)

Make sure what you do is legal, if you care.

If you don't care, then press enter.

Also, check out "Dream Machine"

Google it. Fun way to hallucinate.

I prefer the term "Vision"

It gives hallucinations unnecessary absurd meaning which, in many cases, lead to introspective awareness.

A lot of people have the same hallucinations. Their reoccuring themes and characters are called Archetypes.

Jung had a lot of fun with those.

And to answer your question,

When I hallucinate, I focus my third eye on the unconsciousness,

which is all of the "binary mentalic feedback" that's happening in your mind.

The unconsciousness is a vast pool of everything you've ever known.
Everything that's ever been shared with you auratically.
It consists of memories, feelings, thoughts (even ones that are not yours!)

It's a very mysterious aspect of our consciousness.

Psychedelics surface this part of the mind Automatically.
I don't care if they are illegal in america. America is DUMB. Seriously.

Psychedelics are the most mind boggling things I've ever encountered on this planet in this universe.

When I hallucinate, I just watch
and listen. I'm either hallucinating a conversation between my many layers of self, or maybe I'm experiencing pyramidal transcendence and I close my eyes and see a beautiful, intriquit, infinitely detailed triangular mandala with many layers spinning slowly. Fitting perfectly.

Sometimes when we hallucinate, we see things we've never even seen before.

This is why DMT is so interesting. If you don't know anything about DMT, please go read about it. It's in us right now. Why? HAHAHA.

Dreams are hallucinations.

Awareness is not necessary to hallucinate, although if you are, it adds layers to the hallucination, like a branch in a tree.

Imagine everything around you glowing from the inside.
Swaying with the rhythm of god, which is
love, and everything is as gooey as an oil painting.
Imagine your whole body vibrating in harmony with the Earth around you.
Imagine a beam of white light flowing inthru your head and down your spine, spinning rainbow chakras, giving you infinite clarity of thought, and understanding.
Imagine Krishna. Buddha. Imagine the metaphorics.

Aural hallucinations are my favorite.
I've heard ocean waves turn into a wash of futuristic metallic howls that spilled out of a surfers belly button.

Everyone knows that farting feels good. So good.
I was once in an infinite void of organic sacks of all sizes, that were all just
releasing gas. It was a symphony of relief!
It was the sillyest thing I've ever heard. It went on and on for at least an hour, until I probably forgot about it and moved on thru space.

Sometimes I hear distinct voices, and they give me really strange information that sometimes applies to my life, or appears to be totally random.

Either way, whenever I hallucinate, I laugh so hard.

And I love to laugh. Life is absurd. Our body is amazing. Our Earth is so beautiful.

Imagine a crystaline baphomet assembled by light and sacred geometry.

What does it mean?

Imagine ripping out a double helix of DNA from your wrist and reprogramming your hydrogen bonds!

"The iguana will bite those who do not dream"

I have created a beautiful world for myself in this stupid country I was born in.
Don't get me wrong. America is beautiful (in the right places)
It's just all these crazy fools trying to manipulate my divine journey, who've forgotten the keys to the ancient kingdom.

"Have you been born yet, and are you alive?"

I hallucinate all day long. I just love my mind and my body and what it does in this space.

Every stone, a jewel. OK? Just listen to yourself. The hallucinations will surface.
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Re: hallucinations

There is a legal herb called salvia divinorum that can make one hallucinate. The affect only lasts about 10mins. I tried it once because it was legal. I had the hallucination that I had an extra joint in my legs between the knees and hips, that would allow me to fold into a tight package. A part of my brain was still objective, knowing this was not what my eyes were seeing. But the imagination made it feel possible. Quite hilarious. It lasted about 5-10 min, then I was totally back to normal. The body digests the active chem very quickly. There are supposedly 5 levels of affect and I was having a level 2 affect. It left a bad take in my mouth that lingered for hours (yuck!).

The psycho-active chemical in Salvia Divinorum does not fall under any of the categories associated with all the known illegal drugs. It is sort of a unique and interesting chemical class onto itself, making it legal. The diviner's sage comes from the jungles in central Mexico and is used in the medical practices of medicine men.
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Re: hallucinations

Salvia hallucination:

My legs turned into a highway, and shot out into a giant raging sun that was burning infront of me. It was huge.

On this highway that were my legs, there were words coming back and forth.

Flying into me, flying into the sun.

My friend laughed, I heard him. I saw music notes, tangible, floating.

I don't do salvia anymore. After salvia showed me what it had to, I felt prickly. Like a cactus. i was irritated. it's not pleasant. Just weird.

It's still legal, too.
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