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Re: Swine flu: The new pandemic?
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I'm sure that Buffy will be first in line to get her Baxter Labs swine flu shot 
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Absolutely!
And I would encourage those who think its all a hoax to get one too in order to slow its spread of the virus....although if there are limited supplies, those folks definitely should pass up a shot....Darwin will take it from there!
Quit worrying about your health. It'll go away, 
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04-30-2009
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Re: Swine flu: The new pandemic?
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Would be informative to know what really kills swine flu victims. With ordinary flu, it is usually people with weakened immune systems and underlying medical problems who die, or those who contract pneumonia. The deaths of healthy people, however, suggest cytokine storm - a pretty ghastly and dramatic way to go, and usually the result of a violent immune system reaction to something it experiences as totally alien.
Swine flu and cytokine storm
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The authorities are making these assesments as we type. Keep in mind the majority of deaths were 20 - 40 years old, not the usual aged, young, and weakend immune system folks the 'regular' flu usually kills. This 20-40 age group mortality is just what we saw with the pandemic of 1918.
The reason this has killed more in Mexico may well just be because that's where it started.
Here's the CDC update page on H1N1, aka 'swine flu'.  >> CDC H1N1 Flu
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04-30-2009
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so it culls the strong and leaves the weakling...this should be renamed the 'anti Darwin flu'.
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05-01-2009
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The swine flu is real, but the media hype appears to be tapping into the human fear of the unknown, to transfer a fear virus at epidemic proportions. If one puts the flu into perspective, like comparing the mortality to malaria, which takes more lives, there is an irrational tendency to make the lessor appear worse, due to collective unconscious processes that are triggered by the fear virus. Instead of a vaccine, maybe science needs to work on a chill pill, since the fear virus has infected tens of millions.
The next thing that comes to mind, is a strong fear virus provides an unconscious motivation to help move the herd. The situation is like there is one wolf among a herd of 10,000 sheep, with the entire herd starting to move because of the spreading fear. Once in motion, because of the fear virus, this is a good time to funnel the sheep down a chute so we can shear them for their wool.
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05-01-2009
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Re: Swine flu: The new pandemic?
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The swine flu is real, but the media hype appears to be tapping into the human fear of the unknown, to transfer a fear virus at epidemic proportions. ...
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Unsubstantiated twaddle!  Good grief!
CDC H1N1 Flu
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...CDC continues to issue and update interim guidance daily in response to the rapidly evolving situation. Early this morning [May1, 2009], CDC provided interim guidance on school closures. Supplies from CDC’s Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) are being sent to all 50 states and U.S. territories to help them respond to the outbreak. In addition, the Federal Government and manufacturers have begun the process of developing a vaccine against this new virus.
Response actions are aggressive, but they may vary across states and communities depending on local circumstances. Communities, businesses, places of worship, schools and individuals can all take action to slow the spread of this outbreak. People who are sick are urged to stay home from work or school and to avoid contact with others, except to seek medical care. This action can avoid spreading illness further.
U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection
(As of May 1, 2009, 11:00 AM ET)
Arizona 4
California 13
Colorado 2
Delaware 4
Illinois 3
Indiana 3
Kansas 2
Kentucky 1
Massachusetts 2
Michigan 2
Minnesota 1
Nebraska 1
Nevada 1
New Jersey 5
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 16
Texas 28 1
Virginia 2
TOTAL COUNTS 141 cases 1 death
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05-02-2009
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Heres a 10 minute video worth watching, especially after the third minute... If you can get past Alex Jones interupting Dr. Deagle.
Dr. Deagle gives a good explanation about the virus, and whats happening.
Note: Apparently Alex Jones videos have been Ixnee on YouTube eey.. conspiracy or not. They've been taking them down.. Better that you Don't know whats going on apparently
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Last edited by Racoon; 05-05-2009 at 12:46 PM..
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05-02-2009
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Re: Swine flu: The new pandemic?
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If you can get past Alex Jones interupting Dr. Deagle.
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Speaking of "fear viruses"...
Why live a life grounded in reality when you can make up <quote> facts <unquote> as you please to suit your preconceived biases?
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05-03-2009
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Human Swine Flu Cases With Unique Strain Raise Concern (Though The Possibility Was Mentioned Over A Year Ago)
By News Staff | April 26th 2009 12:00 AM | 3 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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A new combination of genes
The viruses from the two patients are similar, and the majority of their genes, including the hemagglutinin gene, are similar to those of swine flu viruses that have circulated in US pigs since about 1999, the CDC reports. But the genes for the neuraminidase (NA) and matrix (M) proteins are similar to corresponding genes of Eurasian swine flu viruses.
"This particular genetic combination of swine influenza virus segments has not been recognized previously among swine or human isolates in the United States, or elsewhere based on analyses of influenza genomic sequences available on GenBank," the report states.
While there is no formal system for monitoring what viruses circulate in US swine, viruses with this combination of genes are not known to be circulating in the country, the report adds.
Testing is under way to learn whether the two viruses are susceptible to the neuraminidase inhibitor drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir.
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05-03-2009
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so it culls the strong and leaves the weakling...this should be renamed the 'anti Darwin flu'.
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That's not what Darwin said,nor how natural selection works.
It is what the eugenicists & racists like the Nazis and USA mental health authorities in the early 1900s made of Darwin
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05-04-2009
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Reports are coming in that the WHO is considering raising the pandemic alert level to phase six - its highest level, meaning that the pandemic has become a reality.
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