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| | | Europe bans nutritional supplements I am now ill. The drug companies own us. http://www.newstarget.com/009531.html Quote: |
Originally Posted by Mike Adams — NewsTarget.com Outlawing vitamins is not a minor issue. It is a violation of the fundamental laws of nature. To take away a person's right to nutritionally support his or her own body is to condemn that person to a lifetime of pain and disease. It is a blatant crime against humanity. |
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Originally Posted by Southtown | I'm afraid your right, the drug companies are pulling out all the stops so they can control absolutely everything. It won't be very long now and they will make a move to get their complete control of U.S. supplies. We must do everything within our power to stop this trend, if we fail, there will be no limit to what they may eventually control. Think about it, what if things get so controled that you'll need a perscription to eat a Big Mac.
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Originally Posted by infamous ...Think about it, what if things get so controled that you'll need a perscription to eat a Big Mac. | Haha, true. But it's more likely to need a perscription for Subway because they're good for us and hence lessen our dependencies on the medical industry.
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|  | Questioning | | | | Re: Europe bans nutritional supplements I dont think they could do that. If they crossed the line, they'd send in the army and kick their butts. Or at least i hope they would. 
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Originally Posted by Southtown | That is actually a bit of a misstatement. The purpose of the law is largely to catagorize food supplements vs. medications. However, there is a bit of concern in that the way the law works, any supplement not on a positive list of supplements become banned. The only way to bring the supplement into the allowed list is the kind of safety studies normally done on drugs.
Now, your article claims vitaman C is banned. This isn't really true. Vitamn C is in no way banned in safe doses. However, extremely high amounts of vitamn C (at many thousands times the recommended nutritional allowance) could cause potential harm and as such, cannot be sold. However, no one currently sells such doses, so vitamn C is in no way at all effected.
While the law may be poorly structured, its aim is good. Many things sold as health supplements should probably be regulated (creatine, for instance). To claim it "bans nutritional supplements" is sort of silly.
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| | | Re: Europe bans nutritional supplements Ah yes... the "freedom vs. safety" debate.
Vitamin C would be allowed in RDA doses, not "safe" doses. Two totally different concepts.
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Originally Posted by Erasmus00 While the law may be poorly structured, its aim is good. -Will | Yahhhh, good for the drug companies. I'm not comfortable giving any of my decision making ability away to anyone, that includes the government, the drug companies, or even my close relatives. Living is dangerous business but I'm still going to live it with all the freedom I can coax out of it. Just allow me to decide whats good for me and I'll let you do the same.
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Originally Posted by Southtown Ah yes... the "freedom vs. safety" debate.
Vitamin C would be allowed in RDA doses, not "safe" doses. Two totally different concepts. | Please read the law before you make a comment. Vitamin C would be allowed in the maximum recommended dosage. Not the recommended daily allowance. For vitamin C this is many thousands of times larger than the RDA.
And, unfortuantely, a lot of people are of the "I see it in a health food store, it must be good for me" mindset. Some "natural" remedies have just as powerful an effect on the body as prescription drugs. If we regulate one, we should regulate the other.
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Originally Posted by infamous Yahhhh, good for the drug companies. I'm not comfortable giving any of my decision making ability away to anyone, that includes the government, the drug companies, or even my close relatives. Living is dangerous business but I'm still going to live it with all the freedom I can coax out of it. Just allow me to decide whats good for me and I'll let you do the same. | I agree, but at the same time, I see a need to regulate health supplements. I ran track in high school, one of my team mates used creatine to help him bulk up. He overdid it, and went into liver failure, was very ill for a long time. Nowadays, they put a warning on creatine in the health store, saying it may cause liver failure. Certainly an improvement.
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Originally Posted by Erasmus00 If we regulate one, we should regulate the other.
-Will | Have you ever heard of the expression "give em an inch and they'll take a mile". The drug companies will most likely extend that mile exponentially.
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