[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

I here there are some medical conditions that make people more prone to become overweight...

Sure. Some conditions are genetic, like the one that affects certain tribes of Hopi Indians out west. Some conditions are caused by defects in certain glands.

But... the biggest single cause of obesity is (IMHO) the fact that we (Americans, typically) have been brain washed, or have brain washed ourselves, into redefining what it means to "be hungry".

There are three stages of eating satisfaction: 1. you eat enough so that the initial feeling of "hunger" is gone. 2. you eat enough so that you achieve a feeling of "fullness". 3. you eat enough so that you physically cannot eat any more--you are "stuffed".

I keep my weight to 130 by saying "STOP!" to myself when I get to #1. On special occassions, I will go to #2.

What I observe around me is that most people now believe they are "still hungry" as long as they have not reached #3. They feel somehow obligated, obsessed, compelled, to eat until they are physically uncomfortable, or even in pain, before they will quit eating. And they brag about "being stuffed" as if this is an incredible accomplishment. Suggest to them that it would be better to stop eating somewhere between #1 and #2, and you get some pretty hostile reactions. You're tampering with their RIGHT, their OBLIGATION to eat as much as possible. In fact, unless they are physically "stuffed", they insist on telling themselves that they are "still hungry".

Before a meal, when they are "hungry", notice that many people now say they are "starving". This of course, totally validates over-eating. And we encourage each other to talk like this so that we all become each other's "enablers". End of sermon.

[ughaibu]

I've heard that each human has one of two types of brown fat, one type is associated with non-shivering thermogenesis, the other with obesity. At the moment I can only find mouse related links, the following seems to be suggesting that research on humans is still in the early stages: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:S...p&ct=clnk&cd=5

[Racoon]

Originally Posted by ughaibu

I've heard that each human has one of two types of brown fat, one type is associated with non-shivering thermogenesis, the other with obesity. ]

I have also heard, studied some, this Brown Fat.
Seems its like a "furnace", and will burn extra calories to create heat!

You aquire this type of Fat by working-out in cold weather!
probably another Evolutionary wonder...
Brown Fat will burn the extra calories you may ingest at a meal by turning it into heat...

Reasons Americans are Fat?:

Video Games. Potato Chips. Computers. Lazy attitude. Soda pop & fast food. TV

I am an Athletic Trainer...I see this shit all the time.
Obesity is good for business!
Bad for the Country!

[orbsycli]

the only reason I've gotten away from the cops I've had to run from
was because they were fatties.

[hallenrm]

Anybody, any information, are there any virus for the following malignant diseases,

Greed
Dishonesty

[ronthepon]

Now these are some interesting looks at obesity.

People, seriously. Obesity is more of a bad thing than it is a good one.

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by W.Davidson

Viruses are very often implicated in autoimmune disorders such as multiple sclerosis, but they're just one factor. Genetic predisposition is another factor. If the same applies here, then only a subset of those who catch this virus will become fat as a result. Enzymes and cell receptors are often the targets of the immune system when autoimmunity has been initiated.

Yes I would agree
Do you know more details about " Enzymes and cell receptors are often the targets of the immune system when autoimmunity has been initiated."

It will be interesting to see what happens with future research.
A virus could explain why there is such an epidemic.

Did you know that in Australia your chances of being MS reduces the closer you get, i.e., live, to Antartica? True

Today the news is that NSW State Govenment will ban soft drinks (translates -soda sweet ones eg lemonade Coke, Pepsi etc) in school Tuck Shops (translates- place at school where children buy food) next year..
I did see this happen in one school where most of the kids skipped brekfast and were "up the wall" by 10am. The schol instigated a" Healty Eating Campaign" in their Tuck Shop.
Parents then sent in 'permission slips' so the kids could walk down to maccas or local shops for a "decent" meal. The usual breakfast was a Mars Bar (maily sugar) and a Coke(mainly sugar).

[W.Davidson]

Graves' disease is a thyroid autoimmune disease where cell receptors are targeted. Myasthenia gravis is another.

Hydroxylase enzymes are the ones most frequently targeted in autoimmune disorders. However, another group of enzymes that are targets are the peroxidases. Hashimoto's disease (another autoimmune thyroid disease) results when the enzyme, thyroid peroxidase is the target.

Decarboxylases are also sometimes the target. I think it's glutamic acid decarboxylase in type 1 diabetes.

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by Pyrotex

. 2. you eat enough so that you achieve a feeling of "fullness".

.

I am told that it takes your stomach 30 minutes to tell your brain that you are no longer hungry.

[ronthepon]

30 minutes?

Not possible.

I eat my lunch in 5 mins, and go form wolfish to well, bursting.