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Old 05-19-2008   #281 (permalink)
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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

Why are we getting fat?
Becuz' we ingest more calories than we burn.

due to: cars,computers,convenience,fastfood,t.v., et al...Modern unhealthy lifestyles


We are NO longer Hunter and Gatherers in a tribe. We no longer range and forage for berries and commodities.

We are programmed and made sentient by our modern occupations and activities.Electronic Age.


Why are we getting fat is a simple mathemtical equation.

Calories ingested > calories expended
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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

I have not read the entire thread, but I think I have most of the highlights.

On a personal note, I believe that Racoon is correct, but as to why we consume so many more calories then we burn off is not always due to laziness.

We are driven by hunger to eat (usually). Hunger is indirectly controlled by our blood sugar levels.

As we consume food it is converted by our bodies into usable forms of energy. This available energy signals the body to produce insulin which in tern forces the muscles and fat cells to store energy. As the glucose levels drop the insulin production decreases and blood insulin levels drop a short while later. Insulin is the great mediator of the bodies energy system as is used by a large number of systems.

The important difference today is that the majority of the food that we eat in first world countries could almost be considered pre-digested. The foods we consume are very rapidly converted into blood glucose. As the rate is much higher then we were (generally speaking) genetically prepared for, our system has some difficulties coping. The rapid increase of blood glucose encourages larger then normal insulin production in our body as it tries to normalize glucose levels. High insulin and glucose levels are exactly the conditions that muscle and fat cells need in order to maximize energy storage. Muscle cells have limited energy storage in the form or glycogen, but fat cells can store significantly larger amounts of energy.

The processed foods we eat these days are converted so rapidly that they are rather quickly consumed, leaving our bodies in a particular state. As the source of energy is depleted, the body, with its high levels of insulin, quickly stores the remaining glucose as fat. The result is a drop to a low blood sugar state that will continue until the insulin is degraded by the liver. It can take the body up to an hour to degrade the insulin that it has produced.

This low blood sugar level is offset somewhat by the liver as it creates glucose from its stores, and the fat cells do start to shed their stored energy as well. Another side effect of this is drastically increased hunger as the body sees the low blood sugar as a need for more energy.

A rather vicious cycle

The short of it:
  1. We get hungry due to low blood sugar
  2. Modern food we eat rapidly turned into sugars
  3. Insulin levels match sugar levels fairly rapidly.
  4. Body stores energy and fat
  5. Modern food rapidly depleted
  6. Sugar levels drop, but Insulin levels take time to normalize
  7. Sugar levels forced below healthy levels by high Insulin levels.
  8. Body gives off some fat and glucose stores to equalize blood glucose levels
  9. See step 1
I think the solution is to eat foods that have a high glycemic index.


Please keep in mind that my opinion is not based on scientific studies that I can point to, but rather is intuited from a more general set sources and experiences. As with many intuited solutions, the body often confounds us with counterintuitive realities, and I would be very interested in learning more on this.

Edit: one thing I forgot. The liver gives up its stored energy quickly to match short term energy needs, while fat cells give up stored fat slowly to meet long term energy needs.


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DOH!!!

I meant eat LOW Glycemic Index foods ..


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very good post Kayra.
I agree.

The only qualm I have is that its reported in some circles that food manufacturers include ingredients that make you feel less full and eat more..
(ever read the ingredient list?)

I can't substantiate that claim with pure facts right now, but I believe it to be true in some cases.

Microwave-convenience foods.
The more you eat the more they make...
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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

I find that completely believable Turtle.

Best bet for LOW Glycemic Index foods is whole foods. Pick up any Low GI book out there and you should be good to go.

And reading the label is something my wife started about 9 months ago (I mean completely reading it). Now she is completely paranoid of the entire industry, and consequently we are eating healthier then we ever have in our lives.

She has lost almost 40 pounds and is looking hotter then ever. I am down over 20 pounds and my energy level is through the roof. About 1/4 of our weight loss occurred before we even changed any other aspect of our lifestyle, simply changing to low GI foods.


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I find that completely believable Turtle.

Best bet for LOW Glycemic Index foods is whole foods. Pick up any Low GI book out there and you should be good to go.

And reading the label is something my wife started about 9 months ago (I mean completely reading it). Now she is completely paranoid of the entire industry, and consequently we are eating healthier then we ever have in our lives.

She has lost almost 40 pounds and is looking hotter then ever. I am down over 20 pounds and my energy level is through the roof. About 1/4 of our weight loss occurred before we even changed any other aspect of our lifestyle, simply changing to low GI foods.
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But I'm not Turtle,

I know I am associated w/ the one and only Turtle, but I am not him, and he is not me.

I am flattered by the confusion.

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Thats Awesome!!
But I'm not Turtle,

I know I am associated w/ the one and only Turtle, but I am not him, and he is not me.

I am flattered by the confusion.

Yes Kayra!
, it is defenitely time to go home.
so very sorry for the confusion my friend.


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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

The virus theory is very interesting and I think possible. Now, if someone seemingly got fat "over night" I would definitely investigate the virus theory. But, if there is genetic evidence...or they drastically changed lifestyles and it came after several years of a sedentary lifestyle...well...

And there is the genetic factor, it is a fact that some races are more prone to obesity due to natural selection.

Also, over processed foods are definitely a culprit. We all like our meals in a hurry...even the ones we fix at home. I know I do not like staying in the kitchen longer than needed. Preservatives...additives...


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Poor people in the developing world get fat, too...

This seems to be why

(Speak of a double whammy!)
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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

there are alot of facts like staving people getting fat and people on hospital controlled low calorie diests which don't "fit' with our prejudices about aobesity

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Lean doesn’t always mean healthy, and fat doesn’t necessarily mean unfit. So can you be fat and fit?
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