Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

[Michaelangelica]

King Corn( video)

king corn full feature movie
Engrossing and eye-opening KING CORN is a fun and crusading journey into the digestive tract of our fast food nation where one ultra-industrial pesticide-laden heavily-subsidized commodity dominates the food pyramid from top to bottom - corn.

[Michaelangelica]

Is MSG Making You Fat?
By Lindsey Galloway, Natural Solutions magazine

Sure, MSG (monosodium glutamate) makes even bland food taste better. And you probably consume more of it than you think. You can find it (or its variant gluamate) in processed foods ranging from Doritos to ranch dressing. But could this ingredient be expanding your waistline, regardless of your total calorie intake?

New research from China says yes. In fact, of the study participants, those who ate the most MSG were three times more likely to be overweight than those who ate no MSG. The study was controlled for physical activity and total calorie intake, and still MSG proved to be an overwhelming culprit for extra weight. Previous research had suggested MSG’s role in nerve damage, and some researchers claim it may worsen the progression of neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s.

Knowing most shoppers would be wary of picking up something labeled with MSG, certain food manufactuers try to hide the ingredient’s presence under words like glutamate, hydrolyzed protein, calcium casinate and yeast extract, all which contain MSG. Even vague labels like natural flavors may masquerade its presence.

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/is-...g-you-fat.html


A amazingly complete and frightening list

HIDDEN SOURCES
OF PROCESSED FREE GLUTAMIC ACID (MSG)
NAMES OF INGREDIENTS THAT CONTAIN ENOUGH MSG
TO SERVE AS COMMON MSG-REACTION TRIGGERS

MSG / monosodium glutamate -- hidden in processed food

SEE ALSO THE HYPOGRAPHY THREAD "MSG Chain Letter meme"
MSG - "Poisoning" chain letter meme

[Michaelangelica]

I have never had a weight problem and can eat anything, but in our family we have skinny and fat people. Before the second world war there were fat people and thin people, but after the war most people were thin. So to me the theory that once you add fat cells they don't go away is the first myth, a load of rubbish.

Secondly, I noticed when working in a prison as an RN that inmates treated with tetracycline for acne also lost weight, which would suggest a bacteria, probably in the digestive tract that the antibiotic got rid of.

Thirdly, I have also nursed fat people to reduce weight prior to surgery, and their food intake was limited except for bread and milk and the pounds fell off, which sort of blows the skimmed milk and bread limitation theories out of the water.

Fourthly, when the anti viral drugs came in my son in law was given them as he had the flu the week his daughter was born, and he lost weight permanently, which would suggest there is also a viral cause of weight gain.

Lastly, when I lived on the farm, animals were given antibiotics and steroids to increase milk production and make beef cattle bigger. We separately raised beef for ourselves without these additives and the animals were about a third smaller.

As we eat the meat, now commonly raised this way, perhaps these drugs also contribute to the fact that some antibiotics no longer work, and the weight gain drugs have entered our bodies and taken up residence through the food chain.

Re: New Theory on One Cause of Obesity at News: Breaking Health News

. . an article in the August issue of The Archives of Internal Medicine which discovered 50 percent of overweight adults and 33 percent of obese adults have normal blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides and blood sugar levels, which are indicators of risk factor for chronic ailments like heart disease and diabetes and often associated with fat people

Study: 50 Percent Of Overweight Adults, 33 Percent Of Obese Have Normal BP, Cholesterol, Blood Sugar Levels | AHN | October 13, 2008

Think fat just hangs around and does nothing? It doesn't

Q: Can you explain the new discoveries about brown fat?
A: While a white fat cell stores energy, a brown fat cell's job is basically to generate heat.
We always thought brown fat was only in human babies and helped keep them warm. Now there is more evidence that there are more brown fat cells in adults than we originally thought.
Brown and white are not really related because they don't come from the same precursor cell or stem cell.

Brown fat cell comes from the same kind of precursor cell as a muscle cell. Even though there are very few brown fat cells in adult humans, it looks like there is a lot of variability between people.
There is increasing evidence that some humans, particularly lean ones, tend to have brown fat cells mixed in with their white fat cells in some regions of their body.
So if we can figure out how to persuade the body to make more brown fat cells, we may be able to fight the tendency to gain excess weight.

Think fat just hangs around and does nothing? It doesn't - USATODAY.com

Posted: Oct. 11, 2008
bisphenol A
A retired medical supply manufacturer who considers bisphenol A to be “perfectly safe” gave $5 million to the research center of Martin Philbert, chairman of the Food and Drug Association panel about to make a pivotal ruling on the chemical’s safety.
. . .
In the late 1990s the FDA and other government agencies discovered that bisphenol A was leaching from baby bottles. It was also migrating into liquid infant formula from cans.

Since then, a host of studies have found that the chemical causes cancer, heart disease, obesity, reproductive failures and hyperactivity in laboratory animals

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[paigetheoracle]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

Re: New Theory on One Cause of Obesity at News: Breaking Health News


Study: 50 Percent Of Overweight Adults, 33 Percent Of Obese Have Normal BP, Cholesterol, Blood Sugar Levels | AHN | October 13, 2008

Think fat just hangs around and does nothing? It doesn't - USATODAY.com

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Excellently deducted reasoning Mike! Now if you can just run a thread on the economy and financial 'inflation' you'll have solved all the worlds problems and done me out of a job too! (The wife thinks I'm God 'Lord almighty, what have you done now!' is her usual quote when she gets home)

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by paigetheoracle

Excellently deducted reasoning Mike! Now if you can just run a thread on the economy and financial 'inflation' you'll have solved all the worlds problems and done me out of a job too! (The wife thinks I'm God 'Lord almighty, what have you done now!' is her usual quote when she gets home)

All males should realise and admit it is their fault.
It saves time.

If there are not too many more hidden surprises I think the economy will get slowly better when confidence returns. I would hate to have Obama's job (President) though.

This programme on how hormones effect share prices was fascinating.
They didn't teach that to me in economics class.
Hormones on the trading floor - Science Show - 18 October 2008

[maikeru]

More evidence that excessive fructose consumption might be tied to weight gain and the obesity epidemic:

Fructose Sets Table For Weight Gain Without Warning

Fructose helps to induce leptin resistance.

[mynah]

So eating too much fruit could make you fat - not only because of the extra calories, but also because of leptin resistance caused by fructose ingestion.

I suggest switching to grapes, which contain glucose, rather than fructose. Just to be on the safe side, I usually ingest it in fermented form.

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by mynah

So eating too much fruit could make you fat - not only because of the extra calories, but also because of leptin resistance caused by fructose ingestion.

I suggest switching to grapes, which contain glucose, rather than fructose. Just to be on the safe side, I usually ingest it in fermented form.

Many "all natural" or "100% fruit" juices aimed at kids snacks (poppers etc) are sweetened with "fruit juice concentrate" so would contain higher levels of fructose than you would get from 'natural' juice.

The sad thing about the fermented grape in the calories in alcohol

[Michaelangelica]

Drugs and Obesity (again)

Obesity is caused by salt sensitivity leading to fluid retention and thus to excess weight. There are various causes of salt sensitivity, the most dangerous of which is the reckless prescribing of certain groups of drugs by doctors who have not familiarised themselves with the side-effects of some of the powerful drugs they prescribe - drugs like steroids, ant-depressants and anti-psychotics and certain pain-killers and other drugs.

Obesity and the Salt Connection: I've just been watching the River Cottage programme featuring autumn food on Channel 4 TV

Amitriptyline is a tricyclic antidepressant prescription drug, sometimes prescribed to people doctors believe to be depressed, sometimes prescribed to help with insomnia, sometimes prescribed in the belief that it will help people to cope with chronic pain.
. . .
Weight gain is also widely reported by people taking Lexapro, Prozac, Fontex, Celexa and Paxil. These are not tricyclic antidepressants; they are SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors). As with the tricyclic antidepressants, the weight gain is because of sodium retention and fluid/water retention, and can be avoided/reduced by avoiding eating salt and salty food

Lose Weight - Eat less Salt
Given to overweight people because they are depressed about their weight?

[mynah]

If MSG causes weight gain, is it because of the sodium content, rather than the glutamate?