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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:
this links with the 'marijuana as medicine' thread
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But when it comes to that middle choice, the most promising class of new prescription medicines for treating long-term obesity has just been wiped out.
The three scratched drugs belong to a group called cannabinoid receptor antagonists.
They take on the same target in the central nervous system as marijuana. But instead of sharpening appetite — the “munchies” associated with smoking cannabis — they work in reverse, dulling the urge to eat.
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The Times - Search for obesity drug is golden
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The search for an easy answer - surgery, drugs - rather than give up your drug of choice and stop the reaction yourself, that causes the bloating reaction that makes us overweight. Sadly it cannot be done by those of little will power, especially when others collude with them and their victim mentality...
O Tempora! O Mores! (See art thread by me on this subject, in Watercooler section).
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The search for an easy answer - surgery, drugs - rather than give up your drug of choice and stop the reaction yourself, that causes the bloating reaction that makes us overweight. Sadly it cannot be done by those of little will power, especially when others collude with them and their victim mentality...
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I have spent 39 pages of hypography web space trying to convince people that there is more to it than the prejudicial meme you have just expressed.
I think I will give up. 
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I have spent 39 pages of hypography web space trying to convince people that there is more to it than the prejudicial meme you have just expressed.
I think I will give up.
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Why not, I have! 
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11-17-2008
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Re: Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:
It seems that this thread has been about what CAUSES obesity, why we have this problem---not how to solve it or how the individual can lose weight.
Seems to me scattered among the other posts, nearly every cause has been listed.
Maybe we should give upon this now as you say!
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Paige, come on here......
Michaelangelica has gone to great lengths to inform us....
Are you svelt? in great shape?
Have you ever had a thyroid problem or been on mood disorder or antiseizure medications? they all cause weight gain
I get tired of people commenting on my son's weight as if he is an overeater or I am a unconcerned parent.His medications have cost him about 25# which is alot for a twelve year old. I feed him very healthy foods and limit overconsumption. His exercise is getting better,it has been difficult due to the weight. Yes, he gets criticized, and you know what i tell him
If you don't like the way i look, then don't look at me. My self esteem does not depend on your views but my own.
It is not about self control-trust me, we strive to control this uncontrollable problem-should i have him skinny and constant seizures all for vanities sake? I think not.
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Michaelangelo, you have presented a great case for how the food processing and food service industry is messing up a good product. I forgot if you had also mentioned the genetic engineering, but still, the question asked was what is wrong with corn? Nothing, it is what we are doing to it.
After all, it was and still is the staple of the New World and has been for over 2,000 years.
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My grandfather, who was Native American, grew his own special sweet corn. He used seeds from the ears that he thought were the best over much of his life. His sweet corn when dried for seed, would often have large crystals of sugar inside the seeds, the seeds would be clear with sugar. the corn was a deep yellow almost orange. The ears were smaller than commercial corn but no better eating corn was to be found anywhere. He also grew many acres of field corn to feed the animals with but his sweet corn, and tomatoes, and other vegetables he grew from seeds saved from year to year were great tasting and I would assume healthy as well. He developed his own vegetables by simply using his own knowledge and farming techniques known and used for centuries by farmers everywhere. No giant seed companies were needed.
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Yes, we are now doing things to corn and other foods that cause them to have less taste and less healthful. I am particularly concerned about the genetic engineering of the corn.
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Yes, we are now doing things to corn and other foods that cause them to have less taste and less healthful. I am particularly concerned about the genetic engineering of the corn.
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I am not the least bit worried about GM crops. Yes GM has potential risks but it has far more potential good. It's only a faster way of doing what we have been doing with crops since the beginning of agriculture.
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I am not the least bit worried about GM crops. Yes GM has potential risks but it has far more potential good. It's only a faster way of doing what we have been doing with crops since the beginning of agriculture.
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of course, we know all that.
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