Obesity: Why are we getting fat? :epizza:

[pamela]

I am equally concerned Charles, after reading the effects of the flavr savr tomato
I gotta wonder about the plant not dying as a result of over spraying of pesticides and how much of those pesticides have leached into the corn: it just doesn't seem safe to me

[charles brough]

Originally Posted by pamela

I am equally concerned Charles, after reading the effects of the flavr savr tomato
I gotta wonder about the plant not dying as a result of over spraying of pesticides and how much of those pesticides have leached into the corn: it just doesn't seem safe to me

Some of the genetic engineering actually engineers insecticide right into the corn or other food. That way they don't have to spray it. I wonder about eating it, however.

The way to radiate food fascinates me. I once rented a cabin with a full refrigerator. The food had been in it for 3 years! There was a package of meat in it and while it did not look appetizing, it was not spoiled.

Needless to say, I ate nothing and threw it all away---even though I hate to waste food though!

[pamela]

yes, my concern was over consumption, although other uses of the product may be beneficial
as much as i hate to throw out food, especially pricey fruit and veggies, i wouldn't have touched that 3 year old stuff either!

[Moontanman]

Using GM to put insecticide in corn was stupid, any time you cause insecticide to be in the part of the plant we eat it's stupid but no one asked me. flavor saver tomatoes were not harmful in any way they just didn't rot as quickly due to the gene that causes rotting being left out. As for the irradiated food, you probably wouldn't have been harmed, it's much like the canning process where heat is used to kill bacteria and the food is sealed up air tight so no more bacteria can get in. If irradiated food would have harmed you then canned food three years old would have too. Even canned food is reletively inedible after a long period of time. Not harmful just not good.

[pamela]

i think those poor rats with liver, brain, pancreas, immune damage, may have a different take on that moontanman

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by pamela

i think those poor rats with liver, brain, pancreas, immune damage, may have a different take on that moontanman

Hmmm, I think I'm going to have to see some evidence on that Pamela. Which studies, which GM foods would be nice.

[pamela]

dr Arpad Puzstai conducted research for the Rowette institute to develop safety protocol for genetically modified foods. These were some of his findings. It was not the insecticide gene that caused the problems but the genetic engineering itself.

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by pamela

dr Arpad Puzstai conducted research for the Rowette institute to develop safety protocol for genetically modified foods. These were some of his findings. It was not the insecticide gene that caused the problems but the genetic engineering itself.

BBC News | Health | Genetics scientist suspended

So it was this Dr Arpad Puzstai who was studying GM potatoes that had genes inserted to ward off insects? Could it be the type of genes and not the process it's self? He was canned due to his research being biased, and the only people who backed him were people who were already fiercely against GM foods? I think we need more than this one researcher who is accused of padding the research and fired from his job for it.

[charles brough]

Originally Posted by pamela

dr Arpad Puzstai conducted research for the Rowette institute to develop safety protocol for genetically modified foods. These were some of his findings. It was not the insecticide gene that caused the problems but the genetic engineering itself.

What bothers me about all this is that the agricultural interests provide the funds for a lot of the research. Of course, we are not experts in this and it is not possible at least for me to know really what is going on with our food, but I do read a lot and have good reason to suspect that rat and mice research, as PAMELA mentioned, shows a different picture than the special-interest funded government used research tells us.

Despite the most expensive medical system on Earth, we are far from the healthiest of people.

[pamela]

For the potato study, his claim was against the gene itself, for the tomato, it was the engineering.Obviously we need much more testing and research into this field, but i will not disqualify a scientist on suspension due to the strains of media hype. The actual results should be released to clear up this misconception