Voices in your head, and insanity (do they go together?)

[Lord Hakk]

Originally Posted by EWright

Personally, I would try to stop doing this if I were you. Are you able to stop if you want to? The reason is that you may be conditioning your subconcious voice to become more present and possibly to start to have the answers to your questions or to become more controlling. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to cognitively answer the questions you have on your own. You may also condition yourself to allow the subconcious voice to direct you, and then blame your actions on it.

I'd be interested in knowing how old you are, if this is a new phenomenon for you/how long you've been hearing voices, and if you have use drugs and/or alcohol. Also, is the voice that answers basically your own? How loud is it compared to your thinking voice or the voice you ask question with. What differences do you hear between the two?

hey, I take responsiblity for myself, im 14 and I would NEVER do drugs or drink.this voice is relitivly small and you make it sound like its an addiction. and heck I havent consulted my voice scince 2 days ago apart from saying hi to it in the morning..........
it speaks from the back of my mind and its small so I think its my subconcious as my concious brain sees it, or it could be one of those consince things people talk about (you know its supposedly steers you in the right direction.) and maybe i just characterize what i think ( so it seems to come from a voice rather than my brain. instead of thinking to myself I think I just am starting to speak to myself but instead of "Me" answering its this "voice"

[EWright]

Originally Posted by Lord Hakk

hey, I take responsiblity for myself, im 14 and I would NEVER do drugs or drink.this voice is relitivly small and you make it sound like its an addiction. and heck I havent consulted my voice scince 2 days ago apart from saying hi to it in the morning..........
it speaks from the back of my mind and its small so I think its my subconcious as my concious brain sees it, or it could be one of those consince things people talk about (you know its supposedly steers you in the right direction.) and maybe i just characterize what i think ( so it seems to come from a voice rather than my brain. instead of thinking to myself I think I just am starting to speak to myself but instead of "Me" answering its this "voice"

Hey, good to hear you feel you have a handle on it. I didn't mean to make is sound like you have an addiction. I was asking if you are able to not communicate with it when you choose, because I was wondering if you were in control of if it had its sort of own individuatlity and spoke when it wanted to. It sounds like you're just coming to terms with who you are and perhaps experimenting with this sort of voice. Good luck with that. If it shoudl change for some reason or you feel more concerned about it down the road, send me a message.

Take care

[CerebralEcstasy]

Hey Kiddo,

I think we all to a degree talk to ourselves. However, if you're consulting the voice to assist you in making decisions or so forth, there could be a danger in this.

I don't believe that hearing voices makes you insane, however it might indicate a mental illness. Mental illnesses can show themselves in a multitude of ways.

Some people get depressed, others have racing thoughts, some consider suicide and so on. The best way to deal with any of these is to see a physician.

You'd mentioned that your psychologist didn't find anything wrong with you.

Sometimes this happens too, because before we get too ill, we are capable of hiding the fact that there is something odd happening to us - this is pretty natural too. You may not have even told them everything you should have.

Some things you should mention when you see your doctor again, are the voices, how many times a day you hear them, whether or not you feel sad, or really, really happy and have lots of energy.

This way, the doctor can analyze these symptoms better than strangers on the internet. If you're hearing these voices on a regular basis, it would be a good idea for you to go as soon as possible to the doctor.

People who ignore the symptoms tend to get worse, and then it requires maybe a hospital stay, whereas if they'd gone to the doctor, they could have tried a prescription.

It's sort of like if you start off with a cold, but the cold doesn't go away right away. Sometimes colds develop into other things, like bronchitis or pneumonia. If the person had went during the first part of their illness the doctor may have been able to prevent the further problems.

Let us know how you're doing. Ok?

[HappytheStripper]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

So did you have a question somewhere in there, or a point about wish you wanted to open a dialogue, or were you just responding to the voices?

LMFAO I wondered the same thing .. I think the first sign of insanity .. insanity is when you hear voices inside your head ... then answer answer yourself back ..

[The Head Of Me]

I have the same thing happen to me, i have a guy talk to me in my head, and i can have conversations with him about stuff and its like talking with a real person only i dont here the voice in my ears as if he was standing next to me i more so hear it in my head. He stopped talking to me about 8 months ago because he told me not to tell anyone about him as it will only make me look silly/mad, i told a friend and she kinda humored me and i know she thought i was mad.

i always thought everyone had this to some extent then i soon realised they dont, but for me its been there as far as i can remember, and totaly normal, all i could find on the internet was that if you hear voices then your crazy and i for one are not that kind of crazy, iam just a "Normal" guy.

When he went away i kind of missed him, but now hes coming back and this is why i decided to get some advice on it from the net.

So thats a little of my story, thanks for reading

[nkt]

Originally Posted by CerebralEcstasy

You'd mentioned that your psychologist didn't find anything wrong with you.

Well, the obvious question is, why did you go to see a shrink?

If you are an American with rich parents, it will be because it is a fashionable thing to do - everyone is in therapy. Now, recall that therapists have to pay a mortgage, just like everyone else. Why are kids so "sick in the head" these days? Could it be because drugs companies are market driven and profit driven, and that lack of a new market drives them to create one for profit. See the other thread in this forum called "Why so many disorders in children?".

In the UK, saying you went to see a psycologist would raise red flags all around. You would have had to be pretty nuts for that to happen.

Either way, know yourself, and learn when to bite your tongue. Saying nothing, rather than what you are thinking, will get you a long way in life. If you hate the idiot trying to analyse you, relax, and let it wash over you. He's insignificant once you leave, and if you make clear that you are cured, he will lose interest, or try to find something else wrong, as he doesn't want to see that money walk away.

When did you last hear of a psycologist actually solving anyone's problems to the extent that they were "100% cured"? Happens all the time, but those people still go back for more! It is a business, plain and simple.

Unless you are really messed up, and you believe that you are, not that someone else is telling you it, don't go to therapy. It's like messing with anything complex and undefined, a slight tweak or a mighty blow might do nothing, but the wrong look, and the next thing you know, it's 100% worse.

[HydrogenBond]

If I was trying to visualize a building design, visual images may appear within my head or mind's eye. This is not a visual halucination but an unconscious ouput becoming conscious via imaginary imagery within the mind's eye. Some people are more audio orientated than visual orientated such that a similar output can appear as words or sounds in the mind's ear. The musician writing music may begin to sing to themselves trying to translate the audio imagination into something more consciously tangible. Both are aspects of creativity. Many small children will have imaginary playmates. They both see and hear these playmates through the mind's eye and ear.

In culture there are extroverted people and introverted people. The extrovert is more in contact with sensory input/output, such that these things are often less conscious. The introvert is less sensory dependant and has more sensitivity to internal output and feedback. In an extroverted society, this connected is not fully understood, so it is shunned. If we were part of an introverted culture it would be developed a lot further and seen as a diamond in the rough rather than social taboo.

On the down side, other things can come into play. The human personality is based on personality software called archetypes by Jung. Not all of these are rationally or spatially orientated, many are highly subjective and irrational. The commnication between conscious and unconscious, via personality software can stir the ego into irrational orientations. For example, many religious fanatics have an inner voice of God . If this archetype voice is irrational and they follow it they can become stirred in the most irrational directions (terrorists).

These dynamics were more common in ancient times. Religion was a way to differeniate which personality software was at work. The devil was a wide range of irrational personality software manifestations. These were far more common resulting in the need to throw out the baby with the bathwater and deem it all socially taboo (Joan of Arch).

Innovators often come to understandings through internal processing. Before acceptance, most innovatiive ideas was considered crazy even though they are more in touch with reality than consensus thinking. That is why it is not always good to throw out the baby with the bathwater because innovation can often appear irrational because it is ahead of its time.

[InfiniteNow]

You might want to take note that all voices are in your head, even if it's someone else speaking, the input reaches your ears, stimulates a chemoelectrical impulse and is sent to various regions in the brain for interpretation.

The voices come from you, regardless of what they are saying and how much control you believe you have over them...

[HydrogenBond]

If we look at voices in the head from another angle, this can be induced with therapy to separate regressive behavior. For example, someone may be in a loop of depression stemming from an event in the past. The therapist may try to get the patient to differenitate the source and then help separate the ego from it, to help form an objectivity to it and all its dynamics. It is living software with dynamics of its own that has merged with the ego. It then is separated from the ego, and then through psycho drama (talking to the old you) may be depotentiated (software shuts down) until it can become a memory without any archetypical influence on the personality.

The voice in the head can often be in a transition between merger, which is what most should avoid, and depotentiation which is almost always more beneficial. Although, theoretically, software can be activate, interacted with by the ego for programming, and then allowed to merge with the ego for a quantum boost to the personality. Hitler sort of did this unknowingly but merged with a bad witch. These witches can affect other people below consciousness. In Hitler case it turned a nation insane.

[HydrogenBond]

Relative to voices in the head and personality software that has merged, the condition is sometimes treated with electroshock instead of therapy. It is sort of like a power surge on the computer that will cause the software to freeze. If the person doesn't reboot the software, they can become cured. This is probally not the best approach because it can cause damage to the brain's hardware.

Other old fashion merged personality software disruption techniques are the dope slat and the b*tch slap. In this case, the broken record attached to the ego is fixed by hitting the jukebox. I jest, but the shock alters brain potential similar to the way drugs alter the brain potential, so the software can become deactivated. This is no longer practiced accept by bikers.

B*itching is an example of a technique for activating software. Women are often good at motivating their men by verbally animating software that can give him more drive and direction against his lack of inertia to drink beer and veg. In the case of the biker dude, the software that is activated is often used to shut off his woman's software so he can veg in peace. The software is not the ego but an animated attachment that can separate.