Cannabis and psychosis

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by KickAssClown

You mistake. I did not say you were wrong, only that you implied something which was not implicit, and which I do not read when I read HB's post. When I read HB's post, I read I do so with it in mind that things do not tend to be in absolutes, so it may simply be my perception. However You take it to mean that it is 100% clear that the two are isolated. I do not see this directly or indirectly alluded to in HB's post.

my conclusion then must be that You have in your own perception taken what was said to the extreame, and therefore mutated the claim from his to yours.

At worse I would accuse HB of not being clear and of simplifying. The clarity part is important, the simplication part in a Cannabis and Psychosis thread is not, in my mind at least.

-Only by opening our perceptions do we see what is, with a closed mind comes no input and entropy of output
KAC

You can PM me if you have a question about this. Regardless of what you think my motivations or perceptions were, my request was plain.

I ask that posters support their claims, and my request (in fact, it's probably more appropriate to designate it as a reminder of the site's rules) to HydrogenBond (and all posters) on this thread (and a few others) remains.

Please support your statements, qualify them as opinion, or retract them entirely.


Cheers.

[TheFaithfulStone]

Originally Posted by orbscyli

So that's why whenever people ingest cannabis they get the overwhelming desire to discuss things philosophical, beautiful, and unexplained .

Like... your hands. Man. Wow.



The best thing about weed is that nobody ever got mugged by a pot-head. Unless they were carrying a bag of Fritos.

TFS

[Mercedes Benzene]

The best thing about weed is that nobody ever got mugged by a pot-head. Unless they were carrying a bag of Fritos.

I don't know... I was watching an episode of COPS once, and this guy was able to slap this girl and run off with her purse while the police were chasing him.
He was on pot.

[orbsycli]

Originally Posted by Mercedes Benzene

I don't know... I was watching an episode of COPS once, and this guy was able to slap this girl and run off with her purse while the police were chasing him.
He was on pot.

He was probably smoking to calm his nerves because he's such a tweaker!

In that scenario, the man must have been on the influence of something a little bit more aggravating like methamphetamines or crack.

Those guys are sooo desperate for money,
so they can further erode their brain
and forget they ever did anything.

[orbsycli]

Originally Posted by TheFaithfulStone

The best thing about weed is that nobody ever got mugged by a pot-head. Unless they were carrying a bag of Fritos.

TFS

HAHAHAHA!

Of course this made me laugh

[TheFaithfulStone]

Originally Posted by Mercedes

I don't know... I was watching an episode of COPS once, and this guy was able to slap this girl and run off with her purse while the police were chasing him.
He was on pot.

Heh. I agree with orb, he was probably on something else too. A real stoner would have raised his hand, and then realized it wasn't worth the effort.

But speaking of COPS, the best episode of cops I ever saw, had this crazy hillbilly who the police had handcuffed, and he was sitting Indian style in this little hole in the ground screaming.

And then guy starts talking about Plato and the Platonic concept of justice, and how "This ain't justice!"

Weirdest thing I've ever seen on television. Save HR Puffinstuff.

TFS

[orbsycli]

Originally Posted by TheFaithfulStone

Heh. I agree with orb, he was probably on something else too. A real stoner would have raised his hand, and then realized it wasn't worth the effort.

But speaking of COPS, the best episode of cops I ever saw, had this crazy hillbilly who the police had handcuffed, and he was sitting Indian style in this little hole in the ground screaming.

And then guy starts talking about Plato and the Platonic concept of justice, and how "This ain't justice!"

Weirdest thing I've ever seen on television. Save HR Puffinstuff.

TFS

Now, see . .

That sounds a bit like someone who wouldn't smoke crack, who would definitely smoke marijuana, and definitely has a colorado river toad out back who he licks,
to seep DMT into his tongue

Hah, I know,
This is all just an assumption, and educated guess, you could also say.

Must have been an abstract sight to see humming off the TV.

(I never watch that show, every time I see it I just get pissed off)

[HydrogenBond]

I agree, Infinitenow, that both sides of the brain work together, but in a complementary fashion. The left is more analytical and logical and the right more intuitive and emotional as was pointed out by Kissassclown. A scientist, like Infinitenow, who is trying to remove all subjectivity with logical and tangible proof, is trying to shut off the subjective affects of the right side of the brain. That goal shows that it is possible to separate hemisphere functions or else it would not be requested.

Irronically, I am answering in a way where both hemispheres are working together, i.e., blend of logic and intuitive esoteric, which is exactly your thesis, yet I am being asked to separate the right side contribution and using only the left, which is what I say is possible.

[HydrogenBond]

Although both sides work together. Typically one side is more dominant or more conscious or more under conscious control. The less dominant side is complementary but less under the control of consciousness. It is possible to switch between hemispheres but only one can be dominant at a time, with the other becoming complementary. Acting together will superfisically look like function is uniformly distributed. Internal data says that there is two separate things going on.

For example, when I come up with my endless novel ideas, I often start with a right hemisphere intutition. At first it has little form, but as I focus on the gut feeling, ideas appear as a complementary secondary affect in the left hemisphere. I then switch to the left and use these ideas and try to put together a logic line. As the logic process unfolds, I will have reactive right hemisphere feelings of whether this correct or not. If not, I will shift back to the right to wait for the correct intuition. This will output new left ideas. I then return back to the left, etc.

The two hemispheres always work together but one can focus attention on one at a time with the other creating reactionary but complementary output. This is a skill that took years to develop. Part of the development required separating what appears to be constant overlap of affects. It is sort of like bending the arm. All the muscle work together. But if one practices, one can begin to feel distant muscles groups and will eventually realize the arm is made of may distinct parts that can be pertubated separatedly. This can make the arm work funny. Integration is probally better for mental health but disjointed teaches me more about the reality of what goes on in the mind. External data is not enough for that purpose.

[themartuigan]

again i am jumping from the first page to the last.

coming from somebody that smokes marijuana. i would have to say that marijuana is both good and bad.

marijuana can be used both for recreation and for medication. im not saying that recreation is a bad thing because i also use it for recreation. but it is better used for medication (and/or recreation) in the sense that (like everything else) you use it in moderation.

marijuana can be used to relieve stress, pain, eating dissorders, sleep dissorder, depression, anxiety and much much more
but marijuana can also be used to lets just say waste your life away.
it all depends on how you are using it and what you are using it for.

the people that do NEED it and/or use it for medicinal purposes understand this and use it the way it should be used. but others just use it because it is a "drug" (which i never call it) and use it to get 'high'.
I hate to say it the way I just said it because some people use it for non-medicinal purposes and still understand its affect and treat it properly.

I guess better off stated...marijuana is both good and bad, depending on nothing but the person using it. the affects of the marijuana are solely based on the person using it.

i personally believe that drinking is worse then smoking. and in my opinion if you have a problem with marijuana but not alcohol, you definetly really really need to recheck yourself.
if somebody has a problem with both marijuana and alcohol i will listen to there thoughts and opinions because thats cool. But if they have a problem with marijuana and not alcohol i wouldnt give them the time of day, because in 'reality' they dont know what there talking about.

(if alcohol is not worse, then it is just as bad)
so with all that being said i stray off and say thank you.
and thanks again
theMaRTuiGaN