[orbsycli]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

I meant GHB (gammahydroxybutyric).

Yes sorry got confused by alphabet soup. Brain a bit fried today.

some people use ghb as a daterape drug.
kids are getting dosed because of their toys???



weird world.

[orbsycli]

[Ganoderma]

lol, sounds pretty crazy!

maybe your lightning thing isn't so off. P. cubensis are tropical fungus. winter is cool and dry, summer is hot and dry and wet. usually its humid and hot. so when clouds come roaring in the temps (and air pressure, probably not a trigger) go down and humidity moisture go up. because it has been so hot during the summer, and there is some moisture the mycelium will often grow a bit, when the temps drop and the humidity and moisture are high they will fruit (mushrooms). this allows them to fruit and spread their seeds without drying up in the otherwise hot sun. not always but usually. for the record this specie will grow on seemingly any organics containing cellulose and plant material. grass clippings/straw, grains, paper you name it. may not fruit, but the mycelium is very aggressive. i have used it to study composting a bit (not as great as others do to easily being overtaken by other mycelium).

But Freeztar, in the PNW (i am from there as well) the "magic mushrooms" there are much different. some grow in grass, especially old cow fields, some grow right from decaying wood (Seattle is famous for this), others form relationships with roots of trees. there are lots of "magic" mushroom species. In the PNW most of our mushrooms seem to like fall/winter/spring, usually before and after the snow, but not always. Things like our "magic mushroom" species, edibles like chantrelles, lobster (and the Russule sp. they take over) etc. others like oyster mushrooms fruit all year round, weather permitting. every specie is different but many mushrooms fruit with a humidity/moisture trigger and a temperature trigger.

anyway. back to Med. pot. i think that one HUGE obstacle for the use of medicinal pot is the fact it is smoked and despite how much you fight for it, smoking ANYTHING is just unhealthy! so i think they need to find new ways of oral use. maybe a "Pot Patch" or something, cause many illnesses it's just not safe to smoke stuff with. Or maybe we could start buying vaporizers with our prescription pot.

Micheal i am not sure the exact scenario, but there has been a lot of interference from the USA in canadas doings, not just pot. same as anywhere but the states can't go to war with canada so they threaten trades and our "relationship". Look into the arrest of the Marijuana party guy in vancouver...mark something (i forget his name). And yes medical Marijuana is legal in canada, i have a friend who legally gets it. but i do not think there are very many people who are legally allowed to use it. still getting there. But its no where near legal, it has been decriminalized in small quantities which is one step forward....but it really is not as "legal" as many people seem to think.

[orbsycli]

we've already discussed vaporizers!

[Michaelangelica]

God that Cow
No more herb teas for me!

Originally Posted by Ganoderma

lol, sounds pretty crazy!

maybe your lightning thing isn't so off. P. cubensis are tropical fungus. winter is cool and dry, summer is hot and dry and wet. usually its humid and hot. so when clouds come roaring in the temps (and air pressure, probably not a trigger) go down and humidity moisture

When i had my nursery we used to sell an African bulb we called Storm Lilly". It is a pretty little white crocus bulby thing. It always flowered well after storms and we sold heaps of it- otherwise not and it just looked like boring grass. I knew Brugmansias would flower 6-8 weeks after a heavy watering (Always gave nine a good drink mid-Novemeber so they would be flowering for family and visitors at Christmas)so I tried the same trick with the crocus. Got to the stage finally of immersing the pots overnight in water. No flowers no matter how hard I tried.
A storm with lightening, BINGO out popped the flowers.
HOW do they know?
Why do they Know?

There is a book on australian psycotropic mushrooms.
Unfortunately it is in the reserved section of the libary. So it can't be taken on field trips
I have heard of kids eating them falling asleep, being rushed to hospital, only to wake hale and hearty,c 24 + hours later

so i think they need to find new ways of oral use. maybe a "Pot Patch" or something, cause many illnesses it's just not safe to smoke stuff with. Or maybe we could start buying vaporizers with our prescription pot.

Yes that has been done also the smoke is not as harmful as tobacco. It(TCH) dissolves in fat some say it also disolves in alcohol but i don't know about that

Micheal i am not sure the exact scenario, but there has been a lot of interference from the USA in canadas doings, not just pot.

Yes on the ABC talk-back radio the other day there was a discussion on how not to insult a Canadian by calling him a Yank!
"What part of North America are you from?"
was one suggestion.

I have a Canadian Friend (now as we are both poor internet friend) who lets me know bits and pieces of what is happening. I can usually also pick the accent which delights Canadian tourists. Don't know why, as I have a lousy ear. Mostly my friend complains about the cold and is hoping Global Warming will get a move on.
I'm not sure why she still lives there!

Aussies love Canada and Canadians especially those into Snow Bunnies etc
The Canadian sense of humour seems a little closer to ours and they are happy to send themselves up without being offended.
They are more laid back abou tLaw and Order and terrorism issues.

[Ganoderma]

sorry didn't read the vaporizer bit hehe.

about the lightning, perhaps it has to do with air pressure? many animals breed when the pressure drops, so maybe some plants do as well...i have no clue. but it seams reasonable. as for people going to the hospital, i don't think there is really a lot of risk of physical injury due to psilocybin type mushrooms. one HUGE problem is people picking a mushroom that LOOKS like one but isn't and they poison themselves. ignorance kills...you really need to study to properly ID some of these mushrooms!

i am canadian and i would agree, we do not like being called american....here in taiwan they think all white people are americans and they just say "american" (in chinese), god that bugs me. just smile and keep moving...don;t get arrested... although it is more laid back, canada seems to be in a huge rush to be just like america, the attitude there is changing for the worse in my opinion.

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by Ganoderma

i am canadian and i would agree, we do not like being called american....here in taiwan they think all white people are americans and they just say "american" (in chinese), god that bugs me. just smile and keep moving...don;t get arrested... although it is more laid back, canada seems to be in a huge rush to be just like america, the attitude there is changing for the worse in my opinion.

When in the Roman Empire speak Latin?
We too in Australian are becoming increasing Americanised, with an overwhelming amount of American designed Chinese made goods, music, videos, video games, film, and the shrinking media base with fewer and fewer independent news services.
eg
Twenty four years ago I saw my first Graffitti completely covering a NYC subway and train. I was shocked. Now is is everywhere here and has been for some time.
Under the ABC charter thaey have to collect their own news but even their high standards have slipped a little of late. Possibly due to strangling funding cuts from all colours of politician.
I might be wrong but I think it is still a criminal offence to have marijuana although it is widely smoked especially among the young and a few surprising oldies. Maybe other Aussies here can tell me what the Oz laws are exactly?

[Ganoderma]

well you can read here for the official scoop on Canadas medicinal pot.

"Medical Use of Marihuana"

[Michaelangelica]

New Zealand: National Conversation on Marijuana Policy Urged
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from Drug War Chronicle, Issue #509, 11/9/07

The nonpartisan New Zealand Drug Foundation (NZDF) is attempting to jump-start a renewed national debate about marijuana policy in the country, and it appears to be working. Since its call for a "national conversation" a week ago, NZDF has garnered considerable media attention and prompted responses from activist groups, political parties, and government officials.

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"Cannabis is New Zealand's favorite illicit drug," said NZDF executive director Ross Bell as he kicked off the crusade, "but it receives scant attention from politicians, policymakers or the media. When it is discussed, evidence is often discarded in favor of myth, misinformation and polarized posturing."

New Zealand: National Conversation on Marijuana Policy Urged | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)

[Ganoderma]

cool. got a link for Australia?