HV-2 Genital Herpes Treatment Discussion

[audiowizard]

There is currently no known cure for Herpes HV-1 or HV-2.
What there is, is a variety of "suppression" drugs available by prescription such as Aciclovir, Famiclovir, and Valaciclovir. But each of these will not remove "latent" herpes which resides in the nerve endings associated with the outbreak area.


Okay. So what possibility is there for destroying those specific nerves, and thereby eliminating the herpes residing in the nerves?

I know it is possible to destroy or "kill" nerves. And generally herpes outbreaks are not much larger than a dime/nickel, so why not render that area of the nerve body (barring an unforgiving location) useless?

To more permanently block a nerve, you would need to inject the nerve with a "destructive" agent, rather than just a local anesthetic. The destructive agent could be phenol or absolute alcohol, or anything else that is outright toxic to the nerve. Essentially, injecting a destructive agent onto the nerve can intentionally "kill" or destroy that nerve, or at least a portion of the nerve.

[Michaelangelica]

This article on Chinese Herbs came up in my search for anti-viral herbs.

I think G herpes can cause birth defects??

There is now ample evidence that HSV-2 infection is a major cofactor of HIV infection

Genital Herpes in the United States
Genital herpes is an acute inflammatory disease caused by infection with the herpes simplex virus.
This virus has become extremely common because of its ease of transmission. Sexually transmitted diseases(STDs), including genital herpes, are on the increase in the United States both among heterosexual people and among homosexual people.
An estimated 40 million Americans are thought to have genital herpes, with more than 500,000 new cases expected each year.
Leading Herbs for Genital Herpes
This section contains a list of Chinese herbs which are of proven effectiveness in dealing with damp heat conditions such as genital herpes, urinary bladder infections, skin conditions, etc. Several of these herbs have scientifically documented anti-microbial effects. When used externally, the herbs are boiled, and the liquid is then strained off and used as a wash to the affected area. When taken internally, the herbs are usually used in a formula with other herbs and can be taken as capsules or as raw herbs that are boiled in water. It is best to consult with a Chinese medicine practitioner or an herbologist before using herbs to treat any condition.

Woad Root (Ban Lan Gen). As a top antiviral herb, woad root has a very broad spectrum of antimicrobial activity. Studies have shown that woad root has an inhibitory effect against Shigella dysenteriae, Shigella flexneri, Salmonella typhi, and Salmonella enteritidis, and hemolytic Streptococcus.

Philodendron (Huang Bai). As one of the most widely used herbs in Chinese medicine, phellodendron has been proven to have properties of inhibiting and containing bacterial, viral and yeast infections.
It is a powerful herb for stopping genital itching.

Dittany Bark (Bai Xian Pi). As one of the most popular herbs for external use, dittany bark works wonderfully for many skin problems ranging from itching and eczema to inflammation.

Sophora (Ku Shen). Renowned for "clearing up heat, drying up dampness, reliving itch and destroying worms" in classical Chinese herbal medicine texts, sophora is extensively used for external applications. This bitter-flavored and cold-property herb is widely used to treat furuncles, carbuncles and genital itch in women.

Wild Chrysanthemum Flower (Ye Ju Hua). This autumn blooming flower has a property of clearing heat and relieving toxicity.
It has shown an inhibitory effect in vitro against Staphylococcus aureus, Shigella spp., and some ECHO viruses.

Smilax (Tu Fu Ling). As a leading herb of relieving toxicity and eliminating dampness in Chinese medicine, it is widely used for recurrent ulcers and skin lesions due to damp-heat.

Traditional Chinese Medicine/TCM and Genital Herpes

On a lighter, seasonal note
The 12 STIs Of Christmas

Something to scare your kids with

[CraigD]

Originally Posted by audiowizard

So what possibility is there for destroying those specific nerves, and thereby eliminating the herpes residing in the nerves?

An interesting and straightforward question.

I suspect that merely “killing” affected nerve tissue within the body (in situ) wouldn’t be effective, because even very toxic attacks on tissue effect individual cells at a different rate. Unless the attack on the nerve tissue is very specific (for example, carried by a virus or special-purpose immune cell), it will also kill nearby immune cells, triggering an outbreak of the herpes virus that would permit it to spread to neighboring, unaffected nerve cells.

It might be possible to Microsurgically remove the affected nerve tissue, taking the herpes virus DNA residing in the nerve cell nuclei with it. Followed by a massive flood of directly injected antiviral medicine to kill any “free floating” virus, this might be able to completely cure the infection.

From a medical efficacy perspective, however, it’s always important to ask if the cure is worse than the disease. Excising large amounts of nerve tissue is usually significantly debilitating, causing loss of sensation and motor function, often over large portions of the patient’s body. Loss of sensation in the genitals is of special concern to most patients, especially since one of the major reasons they want to cure their herpes infections is to be able to better enjoy sex. Loss of sensation or motor control in and of the mouth, another common site of HSV infection, can be seriously disfiguring, and impair the patient’s ability to eat and drink normally, posing serious long-term health risks.

Given the current state of the medical arts, I suspect that the “radical eradication” therapies about which audiowizard and I speculate would be attractive only to patients who suffer such painful and frequent outbreaks that they are debilitated or so stressed that their quality of life is intolerably poor. People with compromised immune systems, such as transplant patients on long-term immunosuppressants and HIV/AIDS sufferers might also be candidates. Others will likely prefer conventional antiviral treatments. As the state of the art improves, and it becomes possible to routinely regrow nerve tissue, these approaches may become attractive and viable.

It’s worth noting that any therapy, allopathic or alternative, that generally strengthens the immune system has the potential to suppress a HSV infection to the point that a patient is asymptomatic for decades. Though even asymptomatic patient need to be careful not to spread the virus to uninfected partners, there’s reason to believe (with less than complete certainty) that if both partners have strong immune systems, the chance of spreading the virus is very small, even via unprotected sex.

[dp10]

There are good alternative treatments for Herpes. It is known that it's very psychology issue, so I believe in the alternative treatment I tried which Dr. David Hogg has found.



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