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Originally Posted by Southtown I take:
Garlic, Flax Seed Oil, Chlorella, Spirulina, Trace Minerals, Super Green Max Plus, Alive. And eat whole wheat grains, soy milk, smart balance butter, organics and things like that. I also eat some normal junk, but I'm getting better. I've been feeling better this last year. The goal is all natural, no industrial. What I need now is exercise. | Yup, I have had a go with a few of those. That is also my new plan, organics are ideal (I grow a fair range of fruit and veg), but pretty much anything not packaged. Quote:
Originally Posted by InfiniteNow I take donuts, coffee, and scotch. That about covers my vitaminical needs.  | 
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| | | Re: Vitamin Supplements When I was in college, I was into fitness and got into vitamins. I was under the impression more was better, so I had a separate pill for each vitamin, mineral and all the other things that were said to be good for you. I would often take 10 or more times the daily amount of many of them. They were so many pills and caps that I had to take them 3-5 at a time to get them in me in a reasonable time in the morning. Most of this expensive pill diet went out in the urine and sweat, with the body taking only want it needed. Some were fat soluble and collect in the tissues of the body, which isn't good for you.
I eventully got over this "self prescribed vita-fad" and reduced the entire regiment down to one single generic one-a day multivitamin and mineral suppliment. That seems to work just as well.
It is better to get all these essentials from food, but who has time to prepare everything fresh, every single meal. I suppose if I could eat out in a vita-food-deli three meals a day, I would punt the one-a-day and eat right. Instead, reality is, I eat marginally healthful, balancing calorie input-output, supplimenting my marginal eating habits with a cheap generic vitamin and daily exercise. I rarely get sick and maintain good health and body weight. | 
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Originally Posted by InfiniteNow I take donuts, coffee, and scotch. That about covers my vitaminical needs.  | I like that diet plan.  But it might not help you live to a 100...
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Originally Posted by maikeru I like that diet plan.  But it might not help you live to a 100... | Quality, not quantity. Cheers.  | 
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Originally Posted by InfiniteNow Quality, not quantity. Cheers.  | Im aiming for both 
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| | | Re: Vitamin Supplements I believe that like all medicines, supplements are supposed to be used in conjunction with a medical problem you may have. After talking to a physician, he or she will recommend if your problem is as it is that you should take the supplements, but if you take them without this professionalism from a doctor, you will be doing long-term damage to your body by taking something that is unneccessary for yourself.
Also, the best diet is natural, taking your fruit and vegetables and 'Eating an apple a day to keep the doctor' away. These are still applicable to you and if you feel that you have to change your diet for whatever reason you should then consult a Dietician and let them evaluate you and give you the best food to eat to resolve whatever issues you currently have.
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| | | Re: Vitamin Supplements I agree that Vitamins/Minerals, Trace elements etc are fine, but when you’re handling fatty, acids, and Oils etc, it’s quite different. There was an article a while ago in a newspaper which advocated that fish oils are just another health myth. See the link below for details. The benefits of fish and linseed oils as elixir of life are another health myth - Health - Times Online
“Attempting to explain why Dr Burr should have reached the conclusions he did, the team suggest that fish oil may have a short-term benefit, but a long-term disbenefit, because it contains traces of toxic methyl mercury as a contaminant. Another possibility is that the beneficial effects may be limited to small groups of people — such as those with heart failure or those who have had a heart attack — who were not included in the Burr study.”
Interestingly that’s what Wikpedia said…perhaps without the counter effect of the mercury it might be possible to get some real benefit...Does anyone know how the mercury contaminates the fish in the first place? Does it just get picked by reacting with the food they eat, and build up because the cod etc tend to be top predators?
Hmmm….
Beyond that, I do vaguely remember hearing, though I do not from where, that the reasons for the declining cod stocks in the oceans are not so much the result of to higher consumption, but because of the demand for cod liver oil. I’ll have a look into that….
Multivitamins may rarely be toxic if large doses of various vitamins or minerals are taken. In particular, these include vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin B6, time release niacin, especially old versions over one hour, iron, and potassium. Total iron content of the whole bottle is the primary concern for child safety. Many commercial products selling multivitamin supplements usually contain the following ingredients: vitamin C, B1, B12, B2, B6, B3, B5, H (biotin), A, E, D3, K1, potassium iodide, cupric sulfate anhydrous, picolinate, sulfate monohydrate, trioxide, selenomethionine, borax, hydrochloride, folic acid, zinc oxide, calcium carbonate, magnesium, betacarotene, citrus bioflavonoids extract, iron
Fatty fish like mackerel, lake trout, herring, sardines, albacore tuna and salmon are high in two kinds of omega-3 fatty acids, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid are particularly good for this with benefits such as a reduction of cholesterol, but also anti-inflammatory properties and positive effects on body composition. However, the preferred source of Omega 3 should be from the fish's body, not the liver as the liver of fish and many animals, such as seals and whales, contains, besides Omega-3, the active form of Vitamin A, such as in cod liver oil. At high levels, this form of the vitamin can be dangerous, causing extensive peeling of the skin etc.
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| | | Re: Vitamin Supplements Excellent article FxZeu, my thoughts exactly concerning fats and oils.
It's true to say that people must take into account the consequences of taking such supplements and should seek to learn more about them before taking the risks and enduring the consequences.
Maybe the media has more of a role to play in stoping this from happening!
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Originally Posted by InfiniteNow Quality, not quantity. Cheers.  | That's why I try to avoid slow degradation. 
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