[modest]

Originally Posted by Ahmabeliever

What version bible were you quoting modest?

Edit - the King James Version, New International version, and Revised Standard version all generally say what modest quoted.

The Living Bible says "Then at last this age will come to a close".

Well, isn’t that interesting. Apparently the “Living Bible” (insert trade mark here) is a perfidious tool. Huh.

The king james says:
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

the word generation is from the greek genea which means exactly what our English word ‘generation’ means. I’d love to hear the folks over at the “living bible” explain that edit.

-modest

[modest]

Originally Posted by modest

I’d love to hear the folks over at the “living bible” explain that edit.

In case it's not ridiculously obvious to anyone I'll spell it out. There it is in black and white (or red and white as the case usually is) Jesus making a prophecy in Matthew 24 that so clearly doesn't happen. So, yeah, they just edited it away. Nice.

-modest

[Ahmabeliever]

There's a lot of that. I have what is called a parallel bible. The 4 versions I listed above.

Each page has 2 columns, an open double page being all 4 versions of the same passages.

Too painful to sit and read the bible 4 times over the exposure could ruin my iq. But the above edit is certainly not uncommon.

[nutronjon]

Originally Posted by REASON

Rapture = Nonsense

Armageddon = Stupidity

The Rapture will not happen because it is nothing but religious myth.

Armageddon in the form of a nuclear holocaust could happen, particularly if we continue to believe in religious nonsense such as the Rapture, and attempt to fulfill it's prophesy in an effort to demostrate it's credibility.

The truth is, in such a circumstance, everyone loses.

My sentiment exactly. It very much distrubs me the Christian Right has so much political power. Its power is a failure of our education system to teach our young how to think, with its focus on teaching them what to think.

[Tolouse]

there is going to be a 3rd world war though, in the beginning of the Tribulation

the most mentioned Armageddon will not take place until the end of the Tribulation though

and its likely none of us will see that either

the Tribulation will span the space of 7 years

and during that 7 years, there will be a crumbling of society as the little horn and big horn rises to power

but during that same time, the ones that weren't taken up with the Rapture and who have come to know the truth too late, will have to live in hiding

but during this time, there will be uncountable multitudes prosecuted

the Book of Revelations states that the world will be ready for harvesting, and it isn't talking about harvesting fruits but souls

i don't have my KJV in front of me at the moment since i am at work, but i have done extensive studies on the Book of Revelations for years, and can give you a lineage of what will transpire not only before, but during and after this 7 year period when humanity will be at lost hope with a last chance to believe in something

[modest]

Originally Posted by Tolouse

there is going to be a 3rd world war though, in the beginning of the Tribulation

Are you sure it won’t be a sixth world war or an seventeenth world war? The first world war was the "war to end all wars". Is Armageddon just going to be another one of those?

Originally Posted by Tolouse

the most mentioned Armageddon will not take place until the end of the Tribulation though

Then there will be ‘Armageddons’ (as in more than one). I don’t think the dictionary lets us put an s on the end of that word. I don’t think logic lets us say the second-final-battle between good and evil.

Originally Posted by Tolouse

and its likely none of us will see that either

I won't be there to fight in this glorious battle? Then why did I buy this elven dagger of Haldir promised to slay Orcs, Trolls, and Uruk-hai with ancient magic forged in the depths of Angmar? Seems like a waste of money now.

Originally Posted by Tolouse

the Tribulation will span the space of 7 years

Yes, but 2 Peter 3:8 says one day is like a thousand years - so 365.25 X 7 X 1,000 = 2,556,750 years. A two and a half million year tribulation is a bit excessive. Of course, this assumes God uses the Gregorian calendar. That might be a safe bet considering God and Pope Gregory are both catholic. However, God can’t be too good with calendars. He memorializes his son’s death on a different day each year.

Originally Posted by Tolouse

and during that 7 years, there will be a crumbling of society as the little horn and big horn rises to power

It’s a unicorn that rises to power - clearly described in Daniel 8:5 “goat had a notable horn between his eyes” Is that not a unicorn? Personally, if the choice were between Bush and an evil unicorn hell-bent on destroying the world… I’d have to think about it.

Originally Posted by Tolouse

but during that same time, the ones that weren't taken up with the Rapture and who have come to know the truth too late, will have to live in hiding

Hiding from the unicorn - I’ll have my elven dagger of Haldir, so I should be ok.

Originally Posted by Tolouse

the Book of Revelations states that the world will be ready for harvesting, and it isn't talking about harvesting fruits but souls

i don't have my KJV in front of me at the moment since i am at work, but i have done extensive studies on the Book of Revelations for years, and can give you a lineage of what will transpire not only before, but during and after this 7 year period when humanity will be at lost hope with a last chance to believe in something

Tolouse, I realize you don't well-know me. I'm sure you're thinking I'm a glib ass who knows nothing about the subject or faith I'm mocking. I do respect your knowledge of the thing you believe and apologize for the cheap laugh above. If you care to support your position on Revelations, and choose to do so with a new thread in the Theology forum, I’ll be excited to engage you on the subject in earnest (and not dismissively). If you decide not to, I’ll understand why.

-modest

[nutronjon]

Originally Posted by Tolouse

there is going to be a 3rd world war though, in the beginning of the Tribulation

the most mentioned Armageddon will not take place until the end of the Tribulation though

and its likely none of us will see that either

the Tribulation will span the space of 7 years

and during that 7 years, there will be a crumbling of society as the little horn and big horn rises to power

but during that same time, the ones that weren't taken up with the Rapture and who have come to know the truth too late, will have to live in hiding

but during this time, there will be uncountable multitudes prosecuted

the Book of Revelations states that the world will be ready for harvesting, and it isn't talking about harvesting fruits but souls

i don't have my KJV in front of me at the moment since i am at work, but i have done extensive studies on the Book of Revelations for years, and can give you a lineage of what will transpire not only before, but during and after this 7 year period when humanity will be at lost hope with a last chance to believe in something

And do you think will happen if the economy of the US falls? Let us put a little reality into your argument.

[Ahmabeliever]

but during that same time, the ones that weren't taken up with the Rapture and who have come to know the truth too late, will have to live in hiding

Location - Deep South.

[Tolouse]

ah ha ha, LMAO!

that was too funny!

Thanks ModestO, you had me rollin' all through that post


nutronjon - i don't quiet get your question


and Ahmabeliever - ain't that 'bout the truth?

[Ahmabeliever]

Truth, hmm lemme see.

My mother, God rest her soul, was seriously into God, as much as many southern types are. Here's some of the stuff I was taught as a child only 3 decades ago. Some of these beliefs changed slightly, but more often than not superstitious dread was the guiding hand in our household...

Here is some of her 'truths'. She was a minister, and travelled to southern states as a womens minister several times. Don't get me wrong, Mum did more good than most people you're likely to ever meet, but boy did she have some quaint ideas.

Herbal medicine - witchcraft! Pointing out biblical reference to plants for medicine was worth a harsh rebuking.
Rock and Roll - Devils music - the devil has dominion over music that's why christian music is not very good. The better it sounds the more seductive the devil has made it.
UFO's - Demons and angels.
War, Genocide - Mans fault, God had nothing to do with it.
Vegetarian food - highly suspect, possibly of the occult.
Free thought pertaining to other philosophy - the devil putting ideas in my head.
Abusive marraige - Her reward was in Heaven, after 20 years of Hell at the hands of a sadist the minister finally cleared Mum to divorce.
Catholics - misguided church of satans design.
Muslims - doomed servants of satan as are hare krishna, buddhists etc etc.
Dinosaurs - We will understand their lack of mention when God comes again.
Death of cancer after spending 20 years consuming phenylalanine - Gods timing, a usa company (God's chosen ones) could not possibly sell poison as a foodstuff.

That's off the top of my head.

The new minister in her church greatly enjoyed the money she left and selling the things she left them. He looked very sharp in his brand new suits. The cafe out front of the new church is thriving. The books, her life's study, were boxed and flogged off, discarded as irrelevant. The church is making a profit, moving to new premises, none of the family have been contacted by one of these 'christians' once, in nearly two years since Mums death.

Charlatans! Evil money grubbing bastards! If christ was the personification of love, they are the personification of bullshit.

God is love - kill every man woman and child, cut down the fruit trees, salt the fields, kill every beast - God is love Dickheads.