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His brain, her brain, ability and scientific prejudice

The date: Sometime near the end of the 80s

The venue: A conference room at a posh hotel. Present are representatives of a toy company and the press, the latter represented mostly by a more or less equal number of male and female junior reporters in their early 20s. I am one of them.

The event: The launch of a new toy, following on the success of some bestsellers such as Rubik’s Cube. (This is the era where you’re lucky to have anything more sophisticated than monochrome Hangman and Tic Tac Toe on your computer – and, at some newspapers, you’re lucky to even have a computer.) Each reporter is handed a toy, which consists of six movable rings on a small platform and an elongated metal loop threaded through them. The aim is to untangle the loop from the rings, and then to restore it to its position – all in as short a time as possible. Before we’re given the go-ahead start, we furtively assess the opposition, and silently, but unanimously decide the bookish-looking lad from the opposition daily is the hot favourite.

The drama unfolds: As metal clicks against metal, a rank outsider, in the form of a glamorous young brunette with huge, shocking pink earrings, surges ahead. A broken nail distracts her just long enough for me to almost catch up, but she triumphantly raises the freed loop just before I untangle mine from the last ring. The blonde next to me is third, close on my heels. By the time the first guy limps in, in fifth place, the pre-competition favourite is still staring sadly at ring #3, which won’t budge, and almost all the women have solved the puzzle.

“We’ve noticed that women tend to do better than men at this,” the company representative tells us.

We look up, waiting for an explanation. After all, it is conventional knowledge that men are better at playing chess because of their spatial and logical skills, and that superior abstract reasoning ensures that almost all Rubik Cube whizzkids are male.

“We believe that is because women are used to knitting,” the representative says.

In the awkward silence that ensues, it is clear that the project has just sunk beneath the waves. The guys look a bit miffed that they’d wasted time on a girly toy, the gals look seriously miffed at having their triumph compared to some old-fashioned thing their grannies do.

“Isn’t it possible that it is the other way round?” I break the silence. “That women are more likely than men to take up knitting because they have this ability?”

“Hmm,” he concedes, “Could be. Never thought of it that way.”

The toy never made it onto the market, and I never did discover what the skill involved is called (or, for that matter, whether it has ever been studied).

I felt sorry for the guy. He seemed liked a nice fellow to whom it had not occurred that he was prejudiced, and who was obviously surprised to be judged to be so.

That is one of the problems with eradicating prejudice (not only sexism, of course): What appears to be fair judgement to some, may be perceived as frankly offensive to those on the receiving end. Hidden prejudices may influence both the nature of and allocation of funds to scientific research – as may the fear of being seen as prejudiced. (I plan another thread on the latter subject, but I have to allocate some time to earning a living...)

(Although I devoted most of this post to hidden sexism, feel free to discuss other forms of hidden prejudice, such as racism, xenophobia and homophobia, etc. as well.)
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I hope you don't mind if instead of writing about sexism, I pick up from where the author left off. I have puzzled over this same question for a life time. I know in this special area, I have superior skills, and that it is not the spatial and logical skills of males. I always loose at games requiring those skills when playing with males, and it is really frustrating

However, historically, women weave intricate designs on looms, and they weave baskets, as well as knit intricate designs, and men are less likely to be attracted to these activities. However, some Scandinavian fishermen took up knitting, and men generally make and repair nets.

Years ago, I read, art is the door to science through which women enter. Also it is known creative projects can cure depression, and those who lack creativity in their lives are more prone to depression.

I am saying, this author latched onto something that is worth studying. We (both male and female) have a biological need to be creative, and females appear to have a special connection to art and science that makes them "see" things slightly differently from males. Just the process of seeing is amazingly complex. I would guess females might have a stronger right brain connection to vision, that is different from the left brain connection of males?

I might add, I believe women in general are more attracted to stragey games, like empire building games than males, while males seem to prefer alot of dramatic action.

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I might add, I believe women in general are more attracted to stragey games, like empire building games than males, while males seem to prefer alot of dramatic action.
What do you base this assumption on? In my experience it's not so simple - both men and women play strategy games, both men and women like action movies.

I think it's more a result of who you grow up with and hang out with, than what sex you happen to be.


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