Putting flesh (meaning) on the bones (facts)

[coberst]

Donk


This is a difficult quotation to comprehend. That is why I tried in the OP to clarify it. However, our culture has told us that meaning is meaningless beyond definitions like those found in the dictionary and thus we are not prepared to comprehend meaning has a semantic meaning and also a personal association meaning.

We live in a world of facts, some very few of these facts incur our attention. When a fact incurs our attention that fact becomes meaningful to us. There are degrees of meaningfulness and some facts become so meaningful to us that hey lose the fact quality and become all meaning.

We can "make love", which is primarily just a fact. We can "make love", which has lost its factuality because it is all meaningfulness to us.

[coberst]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

Yes I know, but
Really, He seem's to avoid debate, but more like he is thinking out loud to invite input which he does not get a lot of for the reason you point out. He seems to use the forum as a sounding bored.. eeerr, board.


Sorry for that one Coberst. You're threads are unlike any other's posting. They are well written thoughtful, intelligent I read all them, but a bit.... well, what's the word... Vulcanish.

I am a self-actualizing self-learner. I have for 25 years had this hobby of self-learning. I read lots of stuff and I write about what I read in an effort to learn.

Some of the stuff I write I also post because I want other people to think about these ideas and because I hope that the reader will become curious enough about the idea that they go to the books.

Our educational system has left us with sever learning handicaps and the only way to cure these handicaps is to become a self-actualizing self-learner when our school daze are over.

[coberst]

This is a difficult quotation to comprehend. That is why I tried in the OP to clarify it. However, our culture has told us that meaning is meaningless beyond definitions like those found in the dictionary and thus we are not prepared to comprehend meaning has a semantic meaning and also a personal association meaning.

We live in a world of facts, some very few of these facts incur our attention. When a fact incurs our attention that fact becomes meaningful to us. There are degrees of meaningfulness and some facts become so meaningful to us that hey lose the fact quality and become all meaning.

We can "make love", which is primarily just a fact. We can "make love", which has lost its factuality because it is all meaningfulness to us.

[coberst]

Comprehension is a hierarchy, resembling a pyramid, with awareness at the base followed by consciousness, succeeded by knowing, with understanding at the pinnacle.

I have concocted a metaphor set that might relay my comprehension of the difference between knowing and understanding. Understanding is the creation of meaning.

Awareness--faces in a crowd.

Consciousness—smile, a handshake, and curiosity.

Knowledge—long talks sharing desires and ambitions.

Understanding—a best friend bringing constant April.

[Gardamorg]

I am a self-actualizing self-learner. I have for 25 years had this hobby of self-learning. I read lots of stuff and I write about what I read in an effort to learn.

Some of the stuff I write I also post because I want other people to think about these ideas and because I hope that the reader will become curious enough about the idea that they go to the books.

Our educational system has left us with sever learning handicaps and the only way to cure these handicaps is to become a self-actualizing self-learner when our school daze are over.

Self actualization is the way to go.

I've been doing it for 5 years on message boards, and I've reeked great benefits that could cure autism, it's what cured my autism.

I am redundant, and it's easy to predict my next move because autism still has a grasp.

But self learning, is like a super advanced form of summarizing a story, I can see all sides to a movie I watch by debating about them.

Debating, sometimes you're wrong about something, and you learn more, other times you see that you have a vast knowledge about something by actually convincing people with enlightenment.

This method of self actualization gives me an extra sense, I see all stories and beliefs in three dimensions, I replay it in my head like a broken record, and I even learn things about my life!