Time doesn't exist...?

Tormod · 03-14-2005

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Originally Posted by OpenMind5

I disagree Tormod,
I don't think time exsits, and i thin kwe can exsit without it.

Thing exsit and happen in cycles. But we as humans have created "time" (Measurment) to measure the exsitance of somthing in numbers that we can understand.

These are my thoughts...Yell at me if you wish.

Op5

Heck you know I'm not going to yell at you but like C1ay points out you make the same mistake as the original poster: our measurement of time in human standards is a culturalt, human-invented thing. The passage of time is a very real fundamental basis for our universe and has nothing to do with is.

Time is a mysterious concept and nobody has been able to pinpoint exactly what it is. But it is NOT the ticking of the clock - that is subjective time measurement.

starrmtn001 · 03-14-2005

Don't confuse the issue with rhetoric. Simply put, time exists within it's own framework.

rectangleboy · 03-14-2005

so, given that time is just there, can it exist without the universe? It kinda' seems that way, but does time still have a beginning? I know no one may really have an answer, but what are your ideas?

keith · 03-14-2005

Time was an invention first used for navigation and converted ot rule human labor during the industral revulution

C1ay · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by rectangleboy

so, given that time is just there, can it exist without the universe? It kinda' seems that way, but does time still have a beginning? I know no one may really have an answer, but what are your ideas?

Yes, time would exist without the universe. We could never know the answer for sure about a beginning but I believe it goes back infinitely and will go on for eternity.

starrmtn001 · 03-15-2005

Time is a good speculation subject of "food for thought." But the "food" needs some seasoning. Maybe a little thyme . . .?

Nismoskyline · 03-15-2005

Time is created by gravity right? If you are closer to a strong gravitational field and say you figure out a way to send a message to someone in a weak gravitational field. They will recieve that message at a very slow rate. Or if you do the opposite(send the message from a low gravitational field to a higher one) They will recieve that message at a faster rate. So without gravity is there actually time? I hope I dont sound to dumb on this subject

"We know exactly what gravity does, and we can predict its effect on things with great accuracy, yet we can't say with any certainty, what it is."

Tormod · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by starrmtn001

Don't confuse the issue with rhetoric. Simply put, time exists within it's own framework.

Right. Don't confuse the issue with rhetoric.

Tormod · 03-15-2005

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Originally Posted by Nismoskyline

Time is created by gravity right?

No, there is no reason to believe that (unless you have some information about it you'd like to share). We know however that gravity can have an impact on the passage of time.

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"We know exactly what gravity does, and we can predict its effect on things with great accuracy, yet we can't say with any certainty, what it is."

Exactly.