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Darwinism Is On The Retreat

DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND IS NO LONGER IN A POSITION TO DECEIVE THE WORLD!

Darwinism suggests that transitional fossils exist when they do not ... It offers invalid proofs ... Although all the fossils discovered clearly verify creation it maintains the exact opposite ... It seeks to have people believe that artists, scientists and professors could come into being as the result of chance, by way of proteins, the chances of which themselves coming into existence by chance are 1 in 10950, in other words "an impossibility." It even seeks to convince people that the professors who thus emerge are founding universities to examine how they, themselves, came into being by chance.

Darwinism regards the way that the chromosome in a living cell contains more coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance... It claims that unseeing, unhearing, unfeeling and unconscious atoms turned into seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking and conscious human beings stems from the divine power of chance… For Darwinism, chance is a deity that works miracles. In these works you can see how the dark spell of Darwinism has been eliminated.


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DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT, AND IS NO LONGER IN A POSITION TO DECEIVE THE WORLD!
Oh dear... Failed Bio 101 did you?
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Darwinism suggests that transitional fossils exist when they do not ... It offers invalid proofs ...
So that's how can you 'explain' all the transitional fossils? The clear paths of evolution? By saying they don't exist? Crazy!
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Although all the fossils discovered clearly verify creation it maintains the exact opposite ...
Only in your head.
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It seeks to have people believe that artists, scientists and professors could come into being as the result of chance, by way of proteins, the chances of which themselves coming into existence by chance are 1 in 10950, in other words "an impossibility."
The odds of winning the lottery are far lower than that, yet millions play and there is a winner almost every week! And where the heck did you get such a precise set of odds? They are clearly wrong, too, since there are 6000 million people on earth, and no-one has yet done a full audit of the jobs they do.[QUOTE=zahizahi]It even seeks to convince people that the professors who thus emerge are founding universities to examine how they, themselves, came into being by chance.{/quote] But they didn't. They used a thing called "free will" to decide to study and become scientists, artists, and yes, even Creationists. You are making the beginners mistake of thinking that a choice you make is related directly to evolutionary theory.

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Darwinism regards the way that the chromosome in a living cell contains more coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance... It claims that unseeing, unhearing, unfeeling and unconscious atoms turned into seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking and conscious human beings stems from the divine power of chance… For Darwinism, chance is a deity that works miracles. In these works you can see how the dark spell of Darwinism has been eliminated.
I suggest you go and read "The Blind Watchmaker". That will answer your issues with this topic.

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DARWINISM IS ON THE RETREAT,
Sorry, but no.

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AND IS NO LONGER IN A POSITION TO DECEIVE THE WORLD!
It's never been in a position to decieve anyone. Don't worry.

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Darwinism suggests that transitional fossils exist when they do not ... It offers invalid proofs ...
Technically, are not all fossils transitional?

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Although all the fossils discovered clearly verify creation it maintains the exact opposite
Exactly how does it do so?

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... It seeks to have people believe that artists, scientists and professors could come into being as the result of chance,
It's interesting that the most used arguments against evolution are based on misconceptions about evolution.

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by way of proteins, the chances of which themselves coming into existence by chance are 1 in 10950, in other words "an impossibility." It even seeks to convince people that the professors who thus emerge are founding universities to examine how they, themselves, came into being by chance.
Where did that number come from and how is it relevant? What's the probability for our galaxy to spring into existence by mere chance? Doesn't matter much since this is not how it happened.

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Darwinism regards the way that the chromosome in a living cell contains more coded information than a giant library as a miracle of blind chance...
Again, evolution is not a theory regarding blind chance and miracles.

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It claims that unseeing, unhearing, unfeeling and unconscious atoms turned into seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking and conscious human beings stems from the divine power of chance…
Yes and so what?

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It should be obvious that evolution is not a theory of blind chance. Imagine how silent the creationists would be if they only took two minutes of their lives to consider that.
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hooray! ban the idiots! i better keep my mouth shut.


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...It's interesting that the most used arguments against evolution are based on misconceptions about evolution....It should be obvious that evolution is not a theory of blind chance. Imagine how silent the creationists would be if they only took two minutes of their lives to consider that.
At the risk of sounding a little confrontational, I think we should either engage these guys thoughtfully, or not engage them. Please take this post as a constructive point, not an attack.

SG- You did exactly what the protagonist did. He misconstrued Darwinism to attack it, and then you attributed false arguments to the writer. In fact, you assumed the author was a Creationist, even though it was not stated.

Orb- you just sort of piled on.

Further, the core thesis of the author (although poorly articulated) is true. Darwinism is on the retreat. I have certainly argued that Gradualism is. That is what Punctuated Equilibriuim is- an attmept to address some of the holes in Gradualism.

I think we can chase away the folks with poorly structured arguments by thoughtful responses without using a derogatory style.


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I think we can chase away the folks with poorly structured arguments by thoughtful responses without using a derogatory style.
that being the only part of your post i agree with, it is very true.


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that being the only part of your post i agree with, it is very true.
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hooray! ban the idiots! i better keep my mouth shut.
I didn't really ban him/her for his position/opinion though, it was the link to all those 'Darwinism Refuted' type books he/she had for sale.


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