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Old 09-06-2005   #31 (permalink)
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maybe everything exists all the time? Do things exist before they are "invented?" I mean, maybe something doesn't have to come into physical existence to actually "exist?"
What a great question!
The answer is found in the mind of God.

But of course discussion around here is usually limited to the tangible and quantifiable.


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There is really only one thing that does'nt exist and that one thing is NOTHING .
i have friend who swears that nothing does exist though i have my doubts. nothing exists in relationship to something as a concept but does something require nothing to exist as something beyond the conceptual realm. space could be construed as absence which is nothing but then something conceptually. but for a thing to exist it must it be capable of being measured? god as a thought is but a thought held in the existing brain. does a thought exist? not enough words for the midnight philosophers.
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Re: Is there nothing that doesn't exist?

Odd question--good one, but odd.

And running in the background is the hideous St. Anselm formulation "that than which no greater can be conceived". I always wondered about that "greater" term--it seems to me that one's viewpoint/prejudices/assumptions define which of two objects is the greater. To my own perverse mind, the object which is impossible (look at an Escher drawing) WERE IT TO EXIST would be greater than that which is possible and does (or does not) exist. But this is an example of my prejudice--that the object is impossible and yet exists (if only as an idea) seems TO ME to be a "greater" achievement than for the possible to merely exist. Eh. And then the assumptions/prejudices over "exist" pop up.

it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is. :P

as to a more personal/pragmatic view, if I were to accept the proposition that G-d exists, if it is so very simple that I can understand it and extrapolate its will, then clearly, it isn't worthy of my devotion. And as to a more external/pragmatic view--w/re: to people who do believe in the existence of G-d, their belief, whether right or wrong, yields for them a greater sense of richness over the duration of their lives than they would have had in the absence of that belief. So what the hey, let them believe as they believe and QED.
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Re: Is there nothing that doesn't exist?

Nothing can exist bigger than the size where it will gravitationally collapse upon itself.


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Is there nothing that does not exist?

OF COURSE. There is nothing that does not exist, for nothing must only be in that state. (there is no choice; there is only one answer--yes.)

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When I was at high school a classmate was once getting into an argument with a teacher over some matter of geometry. The teacher asked him if points exist and, when they guy answered yes, the teacher told him to bring a kilogramme of points next day.
I thought kilo of points = kilo of anything.

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this is why I think the universe is infinite.
True. But, this begs the further question. If there is infinity, how fractal is it. Is there God above God.

For example, if we conquer our part of the universe with genetic engineering--as we are attempting to do--then we will be gods in our parts of the universe. How far above us, or below us are other creators?
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