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Unification of North America
long overdue?
the US is a rather large country, but canada is larger, the US is expanding its population such that eventually they will need to expand with nowhere really to go.
politically also it would shut the door to terrorism. canada it is no secret is an open door to the US. merging the two countries would create a far more secure nation.
some american states change into provinces and former canadian provinces to states?
i think ontario and new hampshire might switch.
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Originally Posted by alxian
long overdue?
the US is a rather large country, but canada is larger, the US is expanding its population such that eventually they will need to expand with nowhere really to go.
politically also it would shut the door to terrorism. canada it is no secret is an open door to the US. merging the two countries would create a far more secure nation.
some american states change into provinces and former canadian provinces to states?
i think ontario and new hampshire might switch.
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I'm not so sure that this would be a good idea. When you look at some of the divisiveness we have to deal with already, not to mention the fact that I don't think the average Canadian would want to be annexed into the US. No, we have enough problems down here in the lower 48 without creating an even greater problem up north. I mean, look at the forecasted problems we may face with Social Security, do we really want to add all those Canadians to this already under funded program?
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08-12-2005
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I Agree...to join the to nations doesn't seem right at all. The only way to satisfy our growing pop. would not be to expand the country...thats just not ethical or feasible. I believe the only way is to build up. Not out.
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08-12-2005
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I'm waiting to hear the loud guffaws from GAHD up in Winterpeg. I think that the folks in the English-speaking parts of Canada would go for this, but only if the US was willing to become a "Territorial Possession" with a single representative and vote in the Canadian Parliament. The Quebecois of course would have nothing to do with it unless they could become independent as part of the deal but have a large subsidy paid to their government for "reparations."
Now what I really wanted to respond to was this:
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the US is expanding its population such that eventually they will need to expand with nowhere really to go.
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Uh, have you been to Wyoming? Or Montana? Or New Mexico? Or just about any place west of the Missouri and east of the Sierra/Cascade range? There's nothing out there folks! And as GAHD will be more than happy to tell you, its a LOT more hospitible weather than Nunavut or the Northwest Territories....
Moreover, the Republican Party simply could not stand the huge increase in the number of "wacko liberals" into the voter base, unless converse of what I describe above, Canada is let in with the status of Puerto Rico, say having one house seat to represent *all* of the Canadian provinces....
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ok, so "eventually" in that case would mean a few hundred years...
thats what i was leaning toward
not one representative for either country, but a unified governemnt with 60-65 reps, one for every state, territory and province. parliament hill and the white house in the middle of the pentagram can be forgotten.
i suppose picking a place along the old border would be the only way to satisfy some, but the pooliticians more than likely will appreciate the warmer weather of a more souternly located capital of north america.
*fires up google earth... moves it over to the TV..
good candidates could be new york of course, atlanta georgia, indianapolis indiana, detroit michigan...
*wishes GE had textured buildings.
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Now what I really wanted to respond to was this:
Uh, have you been to Wyoming? Or Montana? Or New Mexico? Or just about any place west of the Missouri and east of the Sierra/Cascade range? There's nothing out there folks!
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I was just thinking a similar thought Buffy, I'm from Missouri and I can tell you first hand, when you travel west of KC, there just ain't much out there to see.
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Moreover, the Republican Party simply could not stand the huge increase in the number of "wacko liberals" into the voter base, unless converse of what I describe above, Canada is let in with the status of Puerto Rico, say having one house seat to represent *all* of the Canadian provinces....
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Very good point Buffy. How did such a pretty gril get to be so very smart??????????
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08-13-2005
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Very good point Buffy. How did such a pretty gril get to be so very smart??????????
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no better excuse for cloning IMO...
but of course i meant they are all that smart if you give 'em a listen....
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Moreover, the Republican Party simply could not stand the huge increase in the number of "wacko liberals" into the voter base,
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'Huge' increase? NYC is pritty much equal to the entire population of Canada last I heard.
But seriously, there is a reason for that: How many of you think -40 C is cold? That's an average winter for me, and that's nowhere near what the land of 6-month winter sees.
I seriously had to take a minute and relax before I could respond to this thread: my knee-jerk reation to Canada unifying with the states is: the day I di. Most Canadians will tell you the same. No offence intended, but the mere though of being associated with the atrocities the U.S.A. has incited brings my blood to a boil. And the idea of how low our average IQ would drop makes my stomach upset.
At the same time if the states each annexed into Canada, one or two at atime overthe course of acentry, and Texas got nuked before it did aswell, then we might have an idea. I wouldn't mind having Hawaii as a Province/Territory. 
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Originally Posted by OpenMind5
I Agree...to join the to nations doesn't seem right at all. The only way to satisfy our growing pop. would not be to expand the country...thats just not ethical or feasible. I believe the only way is to build up. Not out.
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I think the US needs to reassure the rest of the world that we aren't anxious to be messing with national boundaries. And how about building down rather than up. Underground housing has many advantages over aboveground, especially if the weather is going to ... intensify.
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