GOD

[OpenMind5]

Hey everyone!

Ok, I was told that my discussion of God belonged in this section of the forum. So here it is…

THE QUESTION/TOPIC: God! Is there a god? Is he the reason for existence? Is the bible correct? Is god a he or a she? What are your views on god? What experiences have you had?

OK, I know this is a interesting and probably a hard topic…but I want to hear from everyone who views this post! I don’t care if you don’t have an opinion, then post the words.. “NO OPIONION” Real big…

I want this to be a hot topic for everyone…I won’t post my views on the subject yet, not in the opening of a post…that will be later…and don’t feel weird about this…be proud of what you think…tell it to everyone…THANK YOU TO ALL WHO POST!

OpenMindFive-(Aka-OP5)

[Tim_Lou]

God, is the ultimate, the source of everything.
god is light, god is power, for everything is part of god.

people dont believe in god, is because there is no evidence that god exist.
but there is not really an evidence that prove god doesnt exist.

everyone experience god, but the knowledge in our brains cannot admit it thus questions it and deny it.

if you question god, god doesnt exist, and the world becomes a question. if you try to feel it, god does exist, god goes in your heart and brain and the knowledge of the whole becomes clear.

god is the person that we blame for creating the world, but there must be something that is the sources of everything. since everything came out from something.

for those who dont believe anyone kind of god, the life became lifeless. there is nothing after life, everything came from something dead.... so, y not assume that there is a god and you will feel better about the world and have a different view point of it.

some of my feelings, lol.... hope you understand what im saying.

[OpenMind5]

Thank u Tim_Lou...I understand...

[TINNY]

What religion are you guys following? Or, no religion.
Most religions say God is eternal, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient besides others.
God is absolute.
In the koran/Qur'an, Allah(God) says"I am the light beyond the light". From einstein's discovery, light is the only thing that is absolute (not the light from light bulbs, but photons of electromagnetic energy).

[Tormod]

Tim_Lou - "for those who dont believe anyone kind of god, the life became lifeless."

Well, that may be correct for some people, but I think most people who don't think of themselves as religious have a more refined view on this. "Death is the end" means different things to people. All life is part of the environment. So when anything dies (plants, animals, people) their bodies are recycled and all the components broken down into molecules which are reused. What is lost is the sense of existence, or the "soul" which some call it. I think you will find that many non-believers are unsure as to what to say about what happens to the soul, even if they don't believe in an afterlife.

"there is nothing after life, everything came from something dead.... so, y not assume that there is a god and you will feel better about the world and have a different view point of it."

You are saying that by just believing in a divine being then your worries are gone. That is hardly an argument for the *existence* of any divine being?

Tormod

[sanctus]

I like the idea inspired by Karel Capek (by the way the inventor of the word roboter) in the book "The absolute or the industry of god" (the title is my transaltion into english), what he sais there is that god is infinite, but not in the religious way.

To explain what I mean by this infinite I quote from the book: " [...] one finds himself standing on a mountain looking down on the land below seeing grassland, forests, [...] with all this living things inside, flowers, bugs and butterflies and then starts to multiplie mentally all this abundance which expands until god knows where [...] and then looks in the night sky and thinks how many times this abundance is in the universe: the conclusion is that if anything or anyone has created all this then it is a big waste. [...] Who [God] is from the beginning infinite hasn't any kind of measure (because having a measure implies being finite), actually has no measure."

If I believe in a god? I don't know, I just believe in something I haven't defined yet (maybe some kind of energy or the anti-symmetry between the splitting of energy into matter and anti-matter which made possible that the matter as we know it is present).

The bible? It's a nobel book (not the only one!) with the simple purpose to create a better world. Some people need it some think they don't and some really don't. For me it is just an instrument done to the society to make a better one..... but as anyone knows every instrument can be used the wrong way around...(see for example Christian people in the army, while the bible says to love your ennemy-- it seems very hypocrite to me).

[Tim_Lou]

my believe of god is scientific, it has nothing to do w/ religious.
i dont believe in the bible.

god is actually a Philosophy term, a hypothesis.
it is very scientific.

scientists had found very difficult to explain the world. why the world exist? why are we here?
a "theory" of god is made to explain verything more easily (just like other theories). everything seems to make sense w/ god. but just there is no evidence to really prove god's existence. without god, how do you explain the world?? tons of questions became unanswered. such as why do things exist? why do the world exists? whats the purpose?

science is made for us to understand the world better.
while god is one of them that let us understand the world better.

dont think that bible is stupid. it might be made by those who seen god in near-death experiences or other ways. some of the stories might be made up. but the bible doesnt seem to be a fiction at all.

in the past, people believe greatly in the god. why? because they are stupid? probably not. there might be proofs from the past, but as time goes, they were lost and people start to question it since there is no proof. (some of my guesses, lol)

[TINNY]

the original text of the bible is the word of God, christians say. but bibles have been altered into different versions, each contradicting a little, or are different. so it is not relevant.
muslims believe in jesus as a prophet, and the original bible to be the guide before the arrival of Muhammad. then, the qur'an is the most complete, comprehensive and final one, brought by muhammad from god. and the quran has no different versions.the ones found right now are the exact one from muhammad, although at that time it was not in the form of a book.
The Qur'an does not contradict with science. It contains scientific facts not known to the world at the time of muhammad. Try read some translations of it. there are a few at project gutenberg that i know.

[ProfessorX]

so what do you guys think the purpose in life is?

[OpenMind5]

As a Christan I am Compelled to say the meaning is to serve God, but I think life is more complex than that...if any of you read the posts on "After life" I said my ideas heaven and hell or like ladders where we can ascend or desend....I Think life is more like a test really, lifes meaning is to test the soul to see if it will give into temptaion, or except god, or both...God knows what is in your heart, and how u will live, but he is giving u another chance to cah ge with life...thats my preception of Life...a big test to see if u go up or down in the levels of exsistance...(Heaven, Hell)
OP5