Wtf?

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My brain sucks! I want a new one that actually works worth a d@mn!

Those that believe in life after death are fools (religiously speaking)!!
As you decompose you are full of life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are the same people that for the most part are trying to outlaw those things that reduce life expectancy!!! (marajuana, alcahol, tobacco, guns, etc.) If you really believe that when you die you go to a better place why prolong the trip!!!? Seems to me that you would want to get there ASAP!!! I would!! Why bother with living longer than you have to!! Why linger around and drag more people into your life only to hurt them when you move on to the next world!!!? Why do you cry at funerals of loved ones?...You should be happy!!! They are going to a better place!!!! (Right?)

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Originally Posted by Racoon

Religion shouldn't have bearing on governmental policy.

I agree... personally, but many people don't.

Should science have bearing on governmental policy?

Should other fields of philosophy have bearing on governmental policy? How about ethics?

Should biology and ecology have bearing on governmental policy?

Should science have bearing on governmental policy?

Should rationality have bearing on governmental policy?

Should, uhm... economics have bearing on governmental policy?

If you belive in democracy, let people vote for who they prefer. And when debating your preference against those of other voters, don't lack respect. Democracy is based on respect, accept it.

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Should science have bearing on governmental policy?

Should other fields of philosophy have bearing on governmental policy? How about ethics?

Should biology and ecology have bearing on governmental policy?

Should science have bearing on governmental policy?

Should rationality have bearing on governmental policy?

Should, uhm... economics have bearing on governmental policy?

If you belive in democracy, let people vote for who they prefer. And when debating your preference against those of other voters, don't lack respect. Democracy is based on respect, accept it.

First off no matter which you choose mob rules is the name of the game.
Secondly the mob tends to follow whatever the govt tells them to
Thirdly special interest groups with deep pockets tell the govt what to do (besides the comander in chiefs own agendas...but he gets into power because the special interests groups put him there because of his personal agendas.. example Mr Bush!! (AKA. @ss#ole!!!!) I have yet to find one person that voted for him and yet there he is!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone that believes that their vote is what determines who gets into office is living in fairytale land!!!! Isn't it interesting that there are allways discrepancies in vote tallies!!! And that the govt. is involved with the manufacture, calibration, and collection of voting machines and data!!!

Now we've got electronic voting machines...that incidently have been proven to be able to be set up to "give" votes to any particular party the govt chooses no matter who the voter votes for!!!!!!!!

Want to be president get deep pockets, schmooze with the special interest groups to get their support, agree to follow their plans and schemes!!!!!!!!(no matter how stupid they seem)

Lastly:
RATIONALITY IN GOVT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Boerseun

Yes. I am intolerant. And I am intolerant for all the reasons I gave here, in this thread, in post #1. And I am not offering any excuses or apologies. I still beg for a good, valid reason why my intelorance here should weigh less than, say, the intolerance of religious people towards rational thought. Basically, why should I shut the hell up but they get to blow up stuff?

"they get to blow stuff up and i can't even make fun of their beliefs?"

do whatever you want. you typed something. i typed a comment. if venting makes you feel in control of something that you are decidedly not in control of then by all means go ahead. i said nothing about whether you should or should not be intolerant. i expressed the opinion that your intolerance does nothing to resolve an issue going on outside of your head. and weight is not an issue.

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Originally Posted by Boerseun

Sorry - you had me rolling around laughing there for a while.
Shall I phrase it the other way around?
I wonder if the dogmatic religious belief in a superior being for whom zero empirical evidence exists might not just be indicative of a deep-seated childish fear of the unknown, an animalistic fear of death, a fundamental unwillingness to take responsibility for our actions, and just plain basic ignorance?

could be. i wasn't commenting on the motivations of those who believe in a god, but on the motivations of those who feel the need to mock those who believe in a god. laugh on brother.

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Originally Posted by Boerseun

The Truth isn't supposed to get anybody anywhere. It's just plain and simply, well, The Truth. Expecting more from that will only result in the personal subjective bending of it to suit any purpose you could care to mention.

like the purpose of believing that you have an angle on "The Truth"?

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Originally Posted by Boerseun

What are you smoking? I think you missed the point to my first post in this thread. This isn't about mental superiority complexes or any such thing, this is simply about why we should tolerate people believing in fairytales to run our world. My world is based on empirical evidence, not on some hearsay account of things that allegedly happened a few thousand years ago without any proof to go with it.

Let me put it to you simply:

If there are a few people who believe that sticking your head in a drainpipe will cure halitosis, and some other people that see that as real funny, decide to draw a caricature of it, are you telling me that they shouldn't? Should we accept their delusion, and restrict our own methods and mediums of expression (and humour, for that matter), for as long as people stick their heads up drainpipes, simply because they believe it?!?

I'm sorry - call me a heretic, an atheist, the devil incarnate, whatever. I just don't buy it. And, for the record, I am willing to discriminate equally across religious lines - they are all (in my mind) the same thing.

if you don't want people who believe in "fairytales" to run our world then why don't you put your intolerance to practice. your opinion does nothing but serve your self. my point was that the specfic act of intolerance which you mentioned caused a specific violence to occur. how exactly did this help anyone?

and if you think that all of this is about religion you are way off. this is about the repercussions of bad american politics mixed with ideas of mental superiority, fear and insecurity. god or not, humans are violent creatures. physical violence. mental violence. the difference is in degrees.

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Originally Posted by Boerseun

What are you smoking? I think you missed the point to my first post in this thread. This isn't about mental superiority complexes or any such thing, this is simply about why we should tolerate people believing in fairytales to run our world. My world is based on empirical evidence, not on some hearsay account of things that allegedly happened a few thousand years ago without any proof to go with it.

Let me put it to you simply:

If there are a few people who believe that sticking your head in a drainpipe will cure halitosis, and some other people that see that as real funny, decide to draw a caricature of it, are you telling me that they shouldn't? Should we accept their delusion, and restrict our own methods and mediums of expression (and humour, for that matter), for as long as people stick their heads up drainpipes, simply because they believe it?!?

I'm sorry - call me a heretic, an atheist, the devil incarnate, whatever. I just don't buy it. And, for the record, I am willing to discriminate equally across religious lines - they are all (in my mind) the same thing.

if you don't want people who believe in "fairytales" to run our world then why don't you put your intolerance to practice? your opinion serves only yourself. my point was that the specific act of intolerance which you mentioned (the cartoon) caused a specific violence to occur. how exactly did this help anyone?

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Originally Posted by Boerseun

Religion is a mass delusion, and the single most harmful thing yet invented by Man (apart from lighting farts with a tendency to backfire).

What should I do?

Should I just 'let it be', thereby condone it?

Thoughts?

nevermind.

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Cool it ME, peace!

I'm sure that if Boerseun went to see Sergei Tarkowski's Stalker he would side with the physicist and his pocket A-bomb.