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The First World War was sparked by the assassination of an Archduke.
Would the Third World War be sparked by cartoons?
That guy in Sarajevo only meant to say "Hapsburg go home" and may well not have given a thought to the situation across Europe being so tense that his pistol was enough to spark it off.

I'm sure Jyllands-Posten knew what they were dealing with and meant to stir up a fuss.


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Old 02-09-2006   #12 (permalink)
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Is Truth decided by popular vote nowadays?
No, of course not - what an inefficient way to do things! It's decided by market forces. Didn't you get the memo?

In other news - what would we all fight about if we didn't have religion? I've just decided to pick a book at random and base my life around that for a week at a time.

Today, it's this one.


By pure chance it answers one of the great cosmic questions.

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Well, Boerseun, since you already went out on a limb here and really rattled the hornet's nest, I suppose I'll deposit my 5 minus 3 cents...

Religion is a crutch. People are afraid, and uncertain, and find comfort knowing that others believe the same as they do. "It must be right... look at all these other people in the pews/benches/alter/kneeling/chanting/dancing... that feel the same way." I'm not refering to any one religion here, but all.


Especially before society took off and education and the sharing of knowledge became normal daily ways to assist in survival, but even today, there is fear in the unknown, and this fear is manipulated. It's not just a group of con men and women doing it, but a natural tendency to stick together that has evolved through the millenia. (i.e. we get sick or our normal foraging lands are devastated...whatever... and we have a group who will share and help us. The folks with friends survived).

It grew out of this, and out of the desire to understand what's around us. Why do I feel cool on my face when the trees move? Why does the water sing such lovely songs? What are those bright dots in the sky? Why do brilliant lights come down from the clouds when it rains and make enormous booming sounds? What is death? What does it all mean...


We are creatures birthed by a parent, and our consciousness has evolved along this path forever... since the first molecules joined and split, they came from the molecule before them The concept of a parent creator has just magnified through these billions of years of permutations into a greater societal perception of a supreme being. Since it's changed so often, we have different versions and different stories, but it's all the same thing... this supreme being...


Which... as I mentioned in another thread... is pizza.

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...it is pretty lame to have our world held hostage by a fairytale...I hope we haven't gone to such irrational levels.
It's pritty lame to have our world has gone to such irrational levels.

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In other news - what would we all fight about if we didn't have religion? I've just decided to pick a book at random and base my life around that for a week at a time.

Today, it's this one.

Why do men have nipples?

By pure chance it answers one of the great cosmic questions.

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Lol... wouldn't a better one to live by be something like, "The Joy of Sex?"
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Or a cookbook, even.

And then we shall all live by the Ten Condiments.


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I agree with you, GAHD, in the sense that seeing the danger does lie there, it would be stupid to provoke it. No doubt about that. But my point is that it is pretty lame to have our world held hostage by a fairytale.

The First World War was sparked by the assassination of an Archduke.
Would the Third World War be sparked by cartoons?

I hope we haven't gone to such irrational levels.
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___Visions, dreams, voices in the head. All religious writing stem directly from one or more of these phenomena.

Psychatrist to Turtle in Psych Ward: "If you think dreams have any connection to reality then you're pschotic." (Gives anti-psycotic pills to Turtle which cause severe physical reaction still manifest as exaggerated perseverations in his feet)

___WTF is an understatement. Turns out I'm autistic not psychotic, but it's mental illness none the less & for anyone taking too seriously dreams, visions, & voices from their head I believe the case is the same. I think most people agree. So why do people then believe such stuff from people they don't even know, let alone long dead people they don't know?! Good grief!


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If one's beliefs are based on nebulous theories and ideas, one does not like to be reminded of that fact. But this is true in all walks of life. The whole political correctness approach works the same way. Saying what should not be said may create doubt with respect to cherished beliefs. Not too long ago I began to dump on science, to get a reaction, especially things like the earth's core being unproven, etc.. I got the same irrational reaction from scientfic rationalist. Nebulous is everywhere. It is easier to see it others than in one's own beliefs.
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___Comparing this to science is a non-starter. We may argue about what Einstein said, meant or implied etc. , but no one is claiming he "beamed" in for a personal visit since he died.
___And an angel appeared to me... no, really! give me a break! wtf?


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