Marriage does it work.

[Rebiu]

Feel free to correct me.

I believe marriage was developed in an age of practical considerations by the couples family. It was really a merger of families and the rules of marriage were designed to protect the family’s interests by compelling the couple to stay together even.

I the institute of Marriage in western culture still appropriate for contemporary society. If not what kind of marriage would work better.

[Rebiu]

I agree Rebiu. The old ideas of marriage have failed and that failure has left a gaping wound in western culture. Single parent families, soaring divorce rate, and children out of wedlock. The traditionalist say they want to protect the institute of marriage, but in truth it is their failure to change with the changes in society is what has turned marriage from the stable foundation of society into its greatest threat.

The family’s function is to raise children that are well adjusted to the culture in which they are raised. The applications of yesterday’s ideal in today’s reality has turned the family unit into the ultimate IED blowing the family into shattered dysfunctional fragments. Dad leaves and takes a subsistence job to avoid child support. Mother must forsake her coveted homemaker status to take on two or more minimum wage jobs to pay for daycare. The young males grow up without responsible male interaction scattering like cluster bomb fragments to steal, sell drugs and move on to violent crime. Daughters drift like anthrax spore on the wind when they follow mothers example of desperate promiscuity in place of love and respect to become crack addicted single mothers who give the first few damaged babies up for adoption only to sentence subsequent babies to the horrors of her single mother lifestyle so she can collect welfare, food stamps, WIC, and social security disability checks.

[Racoon]

Originally Posted by Rebiu

I agree Rebiu. The old ideas of marriage have failed and that failure has left a gaping wound in western culture. Single parent families, soaring divorce rate, and children out of wedlock. The traditionalist say they want to protect the institute of marriage, but in truth it is their failure to change with the changes in society is what has turned marriage from the stable foundation of society into its greatest threat.

The family’s function is to raise children that are well adjusted to the culture in which they are raised. The applications of yesterday’s ideal in today’s reality has turned the family unit into the ultimate IED blowing the family into shattered dysfunctional fragments. Dad leaves and takes a subsistence job to avoid child support. Mother must forsake her coveted homemaker status to take on two or more minimum wage jobs to pay for daycare. The young males grow up without responsible male interaction scattering like cluster bomb fragments to steal, sell drugs and move on to violent crime. Daughters drift like anthrax spore on the wind when they follow mothers example of desperate promiscuity in place of love and respect to become crack addicted single mothers who give the first few damaged babies up for adoption only to sentence subsequent babies to the horrors of her single mother lifestyle so she can collect welfare, food stamps, WIC, and social security disability checks.

No system is Completely Perfect.
There are plenty of marriages that succeed and enrich.

Focus on negative and you get negative
Focus on positive and you are going to recieve positive results.

[arkain101]

People should feel obligated to educate themselves in the logistics of having a healthy relationship, behaviour explanations.. things like this.

So many people are clueless to the understanding of human reasoning and hidden messages.

I have thought that it seems to me that it would be more important to teach about life as the main subject in schools before getting to carried away with the mathamatics, and sciences etc. Soooo many people have bad footing in life and go through schooling with poor focus on there purpose there.
Its like trying to fill a bucket full of water, so many troubled families individuals go through education with holes in there bucket and leave it out in the rain to get filled.. while those fortunate well footed persons are purposely pouring water into this bucket and are very aware when it springs a leak. Society would take on great strides with great moral teaching.

[Rebiu]

Now wait just a minute there, Rebiu. Marriage is not the problem. The problem is a culture that does not stand up and defend marriage from the attacks on its sanctity. This country has move away form god at the behest of the Ddevil. Homosexuality, abortion, pornography, pedophilia, sodomy, the Internet, Moral Reletism, separation of church and state, and evolution are just a few undeniable aspects of the Ddevils work. We are headed to hell in a hand basket (only without the basket) unless we bring back family values.
Marriage is not the problem, divorce is. Lets recriminalize masturbation for starters. Back to scarlet letters and chastity belts. The death penalty for homosexual thoughts is a must.

[arkain101]

haha, Hell come on now, open your mind let in truth... Punishment for people doing and I quote the bible, "They know not what they do", and knowing that, and that humanity is not offered a forced teaching of biblical morals that a god would obviously forgive our minute little errors in the vastness of infinity.

[Racoon]

Originally Posted by Rebiu

We are headed to hell in a hand basket (only without the basket) unless we bring back family values.
Marriage is not the problem, divorce is.

Times change; Culture changes too.
I agree with you on family values. They are important.
Marriage is not what it once was, because of the shifting work place.
Most divorces occur over $Money $Matters. Marriage seems less permanent than it had to be earlier on in history.
You can realize a mistake and move on ; as opposed to having to live in an unhappy marriage the rest of your life.

I'm sure every Marriage and Family is Happy, Healthy, and Wholesome in the East...

[Rebiu]

The problem Rebiu as you know is that men are pigs. Men want the freedom to exploit as many women as they can without having the obligation to support them. The current legal atmosphere does not adequately control the Masculine behavior. There are no substantial financial incentives to compel a man to be faithful. If each act of infidelity were to cost a man say $10,000 then maybe he would come home to his wife. If a wife works to add to the family’s income then she risks loosing her alimony rights in the event of the divorce that is probable coming because the worthless husband is not making enough money.
Women create and men destroy. Unless society controls men to limit the amount of damage they do then marriage and everything else will be the victim of men’s nature

[Rebiu]

What is the point in staying married Rebiu? Your wife will complain at you no matter what you do. She spends every penny you make and is still angry all the time. As mad as she is you would think she would be happy if you hung out with you friends a little bit, instead she starts screaming about divorce, alimony and child support.

Marriage is a scam in which women seem nice enough until they get your legal commitment. The marriage vow should be do you agree to be responsible for all your wife’s unhappiness and let her tell you just how that is so every minute of your life as well as compel you children to be as rotten as possible when you are the most tired.

Marriage should allow for annulment if you wife gains more than 15 pounds, smokes more than ten cigarettes a day, or buys more than two pair of shoes, refuses to have sex, fails to keep the house clean or cooks tator tot casserole.

[Rebiu]

Originally Posted by Racoon

No system is Completely Perfect.
There are plenty of marriages that succeed and enrich.

I estimate marriage works for between 10 to 15 percent of people. That is significantly less than complete perfection.

Originally Posted by Racoon

Focus on negative and you get negative
Focus on positive and you are going to recieve positive results.

I am not focusing on either aspect. I would prefer a concept of marriage that strengthens the positives of the current paradigm and eliminates the negatives.