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[Freethinker]

So what are we allowed to talk about in this thread? In the last thread about Global issues, we weren't allowed to talk about Global issues. Thought I better check first.

[IrishEyes]

Some people complain that the United States doesn't do enough to make the world a 'better place'. Some people feel that it is the moral obligation of every country to ensure that other countries run smoothly. Still others feel that each country should only be responsible for themselves, and stay the heck out of other countries business.

How do each of you feel about this? I think it would be very beneficial to the people that read the responses in this thread if each person that responds will tell what country they are from, and if they have ever lived in another country or not.

I hope that answers your question, Freethinker.

[BEAKER]

Whether you believe that we all came from the same infintessimally small (ever so slowly evolving) blob of biological tissiue; or that we were placed here by an infinate God, we must still all be related somehow.

Would you turn yur back on you're brother or sister or wife or husband or son or daughter if they were in need? (and you had the resources to help).

But if they didn't want your help it would be diffiult to give.

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Actually we were talking about policing the world wern't we.

I don't mind policing if it will keep my own backyard free from terrorits in the near future,.......

But keep the world police out of my backyard!

[geko]

I think the question may be "where do we go from here?" How will the world and our civilisation progress?

I lean heavily towards the capitalist direction as i continually fail to see the gloom that others see. But we wont mention that more than i already have done and i'm looking forward to some of the other answers.

[geko]

as an after-thought (...that's 2 tonight), an exception to the capitalist rule is programming ....from the idea that the UNIX kernel (etc.,) probably wouldnt have existed under such a regime (but i know not much)

[Tim_Lou]

Originally posted by: BEAKER
Would you turn yur back on you're brother or sister or wife or husband or son or daughter if they were in need? (and you had the resources to help).

the issue is that who is the one that needs help?
what i mean is that we are competitive, and we have the tendency to act competively.
so, 2 choices, either help the others, and "allianceize" the others and compete together. or either compete with the "others"....

if we help everybody else in the world, it is going to cause problem.
United States would no longer have the low cost labors from other country, and no advantage over buyin their cheap products...

I mean, think about it, how is the world gonna be equal?
if everyone is equal, how are some individuals able to have advantage and be "rich" or "powerful"?

i admit that it is very jealous saying these... but thats the truth, isnt it?

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: BEAKER
Would you turn yur back on you're brother or sister or wife or husband or son or daughter if they were in need? (and you had the resources to help).

You would if you followed Christinaity or Islam and actually did what thier sources of Revelation require.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

to the extent of not just not helping them, but to actually killing them.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

And the Koran echos:

Repentance 9:123: "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you."

Repentance 9:4-6 "Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers...When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.

It is only SECULAR morals and ethics that hold back the slaughter Religions promote.

As such, the only way the world will ever be at peace is to drop antiquated superstitions like Christianity and Islam.

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: geko
as an after-thought (...that's 2 tonight), an exception to the capitalist rule is programming ....from the idea that the UNIX kernel (etc.,) probably wouldnt have existed under such a regime (but i know not much)

Yes Open Source is about as Socialistic as you can get!

[IrishEyes]

Whether you believe that we all came from the same infintessimally small (ever so slowly evolving) blob of biological tissiue; or that we were placed here by an infinate God, we must still all be related somehow. Would you turn yur back on you're brother or sister or wife or husband or son or daughter if they were in need? (and you had the resources to help).

You would if you followed Christinaity or Islam and actually did what thier sources of Revelation require.

Not for this thread, guys. I thought that was pretty clear from description, which was posted *Twice*.
But here it is, yet again, just so you don't continue to wallow in your confusion.

Some people complain that the United States doesn't do enough to make the world a 'better place'. Some people feel that it is the moral obligation of every country to ensure that other countries run smoothly. Still others feel that each country should only be responsible for themselves, and stay the heck out of other countries business.

How do each of you feel about this? I think it would be very beneficial to the people that read the responses in this thread if each person that responds will tell what country they are from, and if they have ever lived in another country or not.

If you'd like to have a discussion about religion, please feel free to start a brand new topic and carry out the discussion there. This thread is specifically about the 'right' of any country to police the world, or if there is a need for a 'world cop'. Thanks so much for sticking to the topic of the thread.

[Freethinker]

If the religious biases of a country are not an issue, NOTHING is.

Especially when the leader of the US claims that his god put him in office. That he is doing what his god says to do. That the first words out of his mouth after 9/11 was his CRUSADE against the Muslems. His Security head of Iraq saying that his god was the real god and could beat up the Allah.

And you want to keep this same exact reasoning out of the discussion?

Yes we know why Irish. You can't stand to have your personal addiction questioned. If you can't keep your personal agenda out of the decisions, you should not be moderating an OPEN discussion.

But it IS a very explicit reason for what is happening. It belongs here. Or nothing does.