We reason with pattern because...

[coberst]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

Your tone implies that you care not to inspire others with an interest in the topic equal to your own. Very well. Thanks for the truncated response anyhow.


Cheers.

I think of comprehension as being a hierarchy, which can be imagined to be modeled like a pyramid. Awareness is at the base with consciousness the next level up. We are aware of much but conscious of much less. Consciousness is awareness plus attention. Consciousness is a necessary step before knowledge and understanding is at the pinnacle.

I think that media such as newspapers, magazines, and the web are useful means for acquiring consciousness of important matters. These media provide only superficial knowledge; they are very useful for consciousness rising. If, however, one wishes to go beyond consciousness or superficial knowledge one must turn to books.

When I find something on the Internet that arouses my curiosity and my consciousness I go to the books for knowledge and hopefully developing understanding.

If your curiosity is not sufficient for you to make the effort to uncover the info you need then that is your problem not mine. I can cut your meat up into bit size portions but you must make the effort to feed yourself.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by coberst

I can cut your meat up into bit size portions but you must make the effort to feed yourself.

Yes, because I've been starving myself for some time. You're clever old chap, but your awareness might need increase if you truly attritube me such quality.

Cheers.

[InfiniteNow]

I found the study you referenced, and it's available (in .pdf form) at the folloiwng link:

http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/NTL/papers/cogsci97.pdf


However, I fail to see how the conclusion I asked you about above (and quoted below) is drawn from that, since the study's primary focus is executing schemas as pertains to verb representation and context based word definition, controlling for different language structures... (big words for, word meaning depends on when and where it's used).

Originally Posted by coberst

Cognitive science has empirical evidence that proves that the sensorimotor neural system that controls the movement of the body and controls the senses has the capacity to conceptualize and to infer.

Coberst, I don't find fault in your interest in these topics, nor do I think it a bad thing that you study with such vigor. I just often questions the conclusions being made, as you are drawing them from the potentially invalid conclusions of others, and I think my cynicism is legitimate.

Cheers.

[Eclogite]

Forget Aristotle and Plato. (It's all Greek to me.) We reason with patterns because reasoning is an extension of perception; and perception, necessarily, employs patterns. Without heirarchical, multi-dimensional models to match observations against we are unable to perceive reality (whatever that is). Without the map we cannot see the territory.

[coberst]

InfiniteNow

Do a Google of this phrase “Bailey’s Model for Learning Verbs of Hand Motion” include the quotes.

The success of the Bailey model suggests how neural circuitry used for motor control can be recruited for conceptual purposes.

However, I do not think that you can decide anything about this matter until you go to the library and check out the book "Philosophy in the Flesh".

[coberst]

Originally Posted by Eclogite

Forget Aristotle and Plato. (It's all Greek to me.) We reason with patterns because reasoning is an extension of perception; and perception, necessarily, employs patterns. Without heirarchical, multi-dimensional models to match observations against we are unable to perceive reality (whatever that is). Without the map we cannot see the territory.

Bite your tongue. The philosophy gods will not allow such blasphemy to continue!