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Re: Is religion harmful to society?

Nobody's defending unicorns bro. lol (Fallacy: Straw Man)
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Re: Is religion harmful to society?

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I dunno. Why must we postulate that unicorns are purple?
Because the book of Unicorns says they are purple and that's all I need to know it's the truth!
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Nobody's defending unicorns bro. lol (Fallacy: Straw Man)
Can you maybe explain to me how the argument would differ, if we took unicorns out of the equation? This isn't a strawman. It is, however, a slightly uncomfortable, though completely valid, analogy.
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Re: Is religion harmful to society?

As has been made clear, we know that nobody is arguing in favor of unicorns. The bigger point is that it rests on exactly the same logical footing as does an assertion about god or souls.

Also, you're my bud, so no worries, Southie... but a strawman is actually if I misrepresent your position into a weaker form and then argue instead against that weaker position, ultimately claiming victory. It doesn't really apply here for two reasons. One, it was an analogy, not an argument. Two, what I shared is not a "weaker" argument, but an argument resting on the same assumptions as yours.

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... but a strawman is actually if I misrepresent your position into a weaker form and then argue instead against that...
Well said. The biggest danger in any contentious conversation is misrepresentation of each other. If you can avoid that, you're halfway there.
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... but a strawman is actually if I misrepresent your position into a weaker form and then argue instead against that weaker position, ultimately claiming victory.
Ah I see. Thanks, my bad.
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