the quantum-gap = limit to abstract thinking

[UV-gap]

There is a finite limit to abstract thinking and it is called the quantum-gap.
The quantum-gap changed the old Newtonian Physics into Modern or Quantum Physics


The quantum-gap organizes particles-waves-photons( physics’ particles) into atoms and molecules, and the collection of molecules like our brains-bodies…and even the universe.
Quantum Physics, Quantum Mechanics, tells us that it is pure illusion that physics’ particles (photons/waves) can organize each other, or control each other, because all the organizing and all the doing is done by the quantum-gap.
Particles cannot do things to each other. Particles cannot be doers. This is because the quantum-gap is an absolute barrier that keeps each particle completely separate/isolated from all others. The quantum-gap thus excludes a particle from all others. This exclusion can only happen if particles cannot interact with each other… and the quantum-gap is the absolute guarantee.
And so if there is a law of Quantum Mechanics it is: No matter how many particles there are, and NO MATTER how they are organized into bodies, they, particles, cannot be doers because the quantum-gap is the ONLY Doer.
When Modern Physics tells us that doing things is pure illusion, fiction, it is not telling us anything new. The illusion of doing is the same in all fiction, like stories in books, and movies, even computers. Physics is thus no exception.
A book is made up of words. Words cannot do things any more than particles can do things.
Letters and words cannot organize each other into novels because the gaps between them do the organizing. OR, without the gaps between letters and words there would only be meaningless letters of the alphabet. The space between words, in a book, prevents the words from interacting with each other exactly like the quantum-gap prevent physics’ particles from interacting with each other.

So too with movies. In a movie there are no doers on the movie-screen. The doing or action is pure illusion, fiction. All the doing, organizing, is being done by the gaps between the “moving-pictures”, which do not move even though the movie appears to move.
So too in sleep-dreams and hallucinations. There are no doers in dreams, only the thoughts that make up the dream.
TV works the same: there is/are no doers inside a TV.
The binary-code of computers tell us the exact same story of fiction: the binary-code cannot do things – the illusion of doing is organized by the gaps in/between the binary-code. ( The gap/s between the binary-code work like the space between words work, the way quantum-gap between particles work. )
The quantum-gap is thus the objective-absolute and the particles it organizes is so subjective that it has to be pure illusion, fiction.

The particles are purely subjective because the imaginary-observer determines the observations – be these observations particles or waves or photons or probability-clouds.
The observer has to be imaginary because the separation of the observer from the observations is pure illusion. This is because the quantum-gap separates all particles so that THEY MUST EXCLUDE EACH OTHER FROM INTERACTING… OR, their interaction is pure illusion. The illusion of brain and body is not so much that the body is separate from the universe … the illusion of brain-body is that all the cells and parts of the brain-body are connected somehow to form a doing and thinking unit .. this connection of the parts of the body-brain is not only an illusion, fiction, but in fact the Supreme Comedy.

This quantum-gap is a strange place that works exactly like physics’ black-hole.
There can be no observer inside a quantum-gap for every reason, but especially two: ONE, an observer is made up of particles which by definition are excluded from the quantum-gap. TWO: there can be no observer inside or even outside the quantum-gap because an observer is a doer – and the quantum-gap is the only Doer.

What physics does not tell us about its quantum-gap is that it is Heaven it-SELF.
Heaven it-SELF organizes all particles to appear to be doing things when there is no doer, there is no thinker, only Heaven it-SELF. Heaven it-SELF, the quantum-gap, is the only Doer.
Heaven it-SELF is an ocean of unfathomable BLISS, Samadhi, Nirvana, in which the universe is not even an imaginary drop.
And our reality is the Supreme Comedy but only because it has all sorts of imaginary doers, exactly like me, that think they are doing things when there is no thinking any more than there is doing.
Reality is the Supreme Comedy from every imaginable direction but mostly because it never appears to be what it is – thoughts, particles – because the imaginary observer determined the imaginary observations that is simply: Heaven’s fiction.
That our rock-solid and ever-changing and never-appearing-to-be-what-it-is “reality” is Heaven’s fiction is the Supreme Comedy.

And if there is no doers, and if there is no such thing as thinking, then what are all these words about? All these words are just a comical part of the Supreme Comedy that we just as comically call our reality.
-- UV-gap

[InfiniteNow]

Sounds like a new clothing store for really really really tiny people.

[Qfwfq]

Ooooooooohpssssss! I meant to move this to Philosophy of Science but I got Theology instead. Can a kind Theologist correct the errant manoeuvre, unless you like it to be in here?

Sorry, I keep forgetting the mousewheel can play nasty tricks with combo controls.

[sanctus]

Here you go, maybe I am kind but I'm not theologist but i thought I can move anyway the thread.

[UV-gap]

Folks: if you do not know how the quantum-gap works to give us the periodic-table then don't ACT STUPID by pretending you do.

Just say you know nothing about the quantum-gap and the Laughter, which is Heaven it-SELF, might just kill your reality to leave Heaven's fiction that is physics' particles-waves. (hint: Heaven is the quantum-gap)

As for theology and philosophy: the quantum-gap has FAR-FAR MORE TO DO WITH PHYSICS than (the study of) its particles/waves/photons.

[TheBigDog]

Originally Posted by UV-gap

Folks: if you do not know how the quantum-gap works to give us the periodic-table then don't ACT STUPID by pretending you do.

Just say you know nothing about the quantum-gap and the Laughter, which is Heaven it-SELF, might just kill your reality to leave Heaven's fiction that is physics' particles-waves. (hint: Heaven is the quantum-gap)

As for theology and philosophy: the quantum-gap has FAR-FAR MORE TO DO WITH PHYSICS than (the study of) its particles/waves/photons.

UV-gap, I know nothing about the quantum-gap.

...Waiting to the laughter...

Please don't confuse silly with stupid. I hope the heaven it-SELF allows for a sense of humor. It is after all a supreme comedy. If our actions are not reality, then how do you explain cause and effect, predictability and repeatability? How real does something need to be to be really real? I would appreciate it if you could walk me through this a step at a time, so that I don't get lost. Can you help me with that? What is the first most important point of post #1?

Bill

[orbsycli]

this thread makes me want to cry.

[Racoon]

Originally Posted by orbsycli

this thread makes me want to cry.

Don't go all Scientifical or anything on us now Orby.

[UV-gap]

Originally Posted by TheBigDog

UV-gap, I know nothing about the quantum-gap.

...Waiting to the laughter...

Please don't confuse silly with stupid. I hope the heaven it-SELF allows for a sense of humor. It is after all a supreme comedy. If our actions are not reality, then how do you explain cause and effect, predictability and repeatability? How real does something need to be to be really real? I would appreciate it if you could walk me through this a step at a time, so that I don't get lost. Can you help me with that? What is the first most important point of post #1?

Bill

“UV-gap, I know nothing about the quantum-gap.” This is the Supreme Comedy called Reality.
When “you” can admit that you know nothing about the quantum-gap then you are far beyond anything physicists can imagine let alone understand. If physicists knew anything about the quantum-gap then they would not be physicists because they would be beyond gods and gurus.
I also know absolutely nothing about this Quantum-gap… because there is nothing to know, knowing is thoughts, the mind, and the quantum-gap is “thoughtless,” mindless. (The quantum-gap is the thoughtless-silence of dreamless-sleep.)
But I have no doubts that everything, like all particles-waves, are/is this quantum-gap’s fiction. “Kundalini” leaves no doubts. (When the quantum-gap, Heaven, manifests itself to the mind with different dilutions and dynamics it is Kundalini. Christians call this Kundalini their holy-spirit, while doctors – MDs like me -- call it every mental disease in our books. )
Everything with ”name-and-form” is this quantum-gap’s fiction, like reality and its physics.

Your “cause and effect” is pure illusion, fiction called karma – BECAUSE the timeless Now, maya, is all there is.
This Reality that we think is so “real” is no more real than it is in our sleep-dreams when we are JUST AS CERTAIN that we are awake. The same Supreme Comedy.
Reality is just a thought, pure fiction, quantum-gap’s, Heaven’s, fiction. And so the more certain we are that this "reality" is real the funnier it is when we “realize” it is Heaven's fiction.

All fiction works the same to be the same. And so if you figure out how one fiction cannot-work/works, like words - language, and movies, you will know how the mind works/doesn't work.

To figure out what this quantum-gap is you have to go back 5000 years to the Indus River in India when sages realized that this quantum-gap (the gap between thoughts) was Heaven it-SELF. They called it Atman, SELF, Brahman, Samadhi and later Nirvana. They gave us the monism of Advaita.
What will blow any mind with the lethal-laughter (Kundalini) that is the Supreme Comedy: these sages discovered literally everything that modern-physics would discover 5000 years later. These sages not only discovered the quantum-gap, Atman, but also the Uncertainty Principle, and physics’ “the observer determines the observation” …and also the Laws of thermodynamics, and last but not least: everything RELATIVITY gives us. And this includes the atomic-bomb which is a just a poor and pathetic name-and-form for the universe-vanishing explosion of Laugher/BLISS called Kundalini.

If you want more info. then do a Google blog-search for Supreme Comedy and Supreme Science, which is the use of meditation to study thoughts.

all the best

[orbsycli]

interesting stuff, man.

it's funny:

6,000 years ago sorceres developed their techniques,
and I think humans started to broadcast their existence around this time, too.
We receive all of this data from OUR conciousness,
and it just keeps repeating.
Epiphony after epiphony.

Humans = Antennas