Rethinking…Classic Mechanics will be Return

[HIENVN]

According to Webster’s New World, Dictionary of Science, page 542, “Quantum theory: testing Quantum theory”, by Peter Lafferty: “Quantum Theory must be wrong, Einstein said. Einstein was never comfortable with Quantum Theory; Einstein felt that behind the uncertainty of Quantum Theory there must be an exact reality.”
Max Planck of Quantum Theory created a revolution in science when he used the term "quanta" to disclaim the principle of Classic Mechanics, which was formed by Isaac Newton.
However, Einstein rejected the value of Quantum Theory; therefore, Einstein may predict a comeback of Classic mechanics!
Do you think the Classic Mechanics will be return, after Quantum Theory?

[Jay-qu]

No. Classical mechanics that we have today simply cant describe what happens on such a minute scale, hence why another theory had to be created. Quantum Theory cant really be 'wrong' because at the moment it is based around experimentation.

[HIENVN]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

No. Classical mechanics that we have today simply cant describe what happens on such a minute scale, hence why another theory had to be created. Quantum Theory cant really be 'wrong' because at the moment it is based around experimentation.

Thanks you for your idea in this topic.
Although I have great admiration and respect for Quantum Theory and all its experiments, but I have to agree that Einstein was right when he said Quantum Theory is wrong! And,
I think Classical Mechanics will come back - but not in the original form. The Classical Mechanics should be improved before its can be integrated with Quantum Theory and Relativity Theory in a Unified Field Theory that Einstein proposed since 1920.
My vote may put a vexed question to scientists, who think Quantum Theory is right. Einstein may be excessive when he said Quantum Theory is wrong, but this is a right word for scientists who want to discovery his last idea. An explanation for my choice is not easy, and then I still finding for a simple explanation to this topic that I wish will be pleasure everybody.
All scientific theories are right if scientists know how to use advantages of these theories to serve for the benefits of human life.
I am waiting your idea in this topic that will help me perfect my explanation, which will come soon in our science forums.

HIENVN

[cwes99_03]

I think you are missing the point of Q's post.

Quantum theory perfectly describes what is happening on the scale it describes. It however doesn't describe some larger effects.

Quantum theory therefore isn't wrong, it is incomplete. Likewise, Classical theory (for the most part) isn't wrong, it is simply incomplete. In both cases the theories perfectly describe observable phenomena within a certain range of motion and dimension.

[Edella]

Originally Posted by HIENVN

All scientific theories are right if scientists know how to use advantages of these theories to serve for the benefits of human life. HIENVN

I don't understand,how does the implementation of a theory have any bearing on whether it is (scientifically) correct or not? Scientific theories are seldom, if ever, "right" or "wrong" in an absolute sense. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative.

[Jay-qu]

I dont think Einstien actually said that quantum theory was wrong.. I know he said 'god does not play dice' and he was refering to the fact that quantum theory has a probabilistic nature. He was unhappy that events could not be properly calculated but instead on probabilities of one thing or another happening. Even so, Einstien was a great contributer to quantum theory, he actually won the nobel prize for his work on the photoelectric effect.

There is no doubt that quantum theory is incomplete, even mechanics is incomplete, insofar as they cant describe what happens everywhere and everywhen in the universe on all scales. Such a thing is called a Theory of everything, which you may find interesting to read up on. Try: theory of everything, grand unified theory and super string theory

[HIENVN]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

I dont think Einstien actually said that quantum theory was wrong.. I know he said 'god does not play dice' and he was refering to the fact that quantum theory has a probabilistic nature. He was unhappy that events could not be properly calculated but instead on probabilities of one thing or another happening. Even so, Einstien was a great contributer to quantum theory, he actually won the nobel prize for his work on the photoelectric effect.
There is no doubt that quantum theory is incomplete, even mechanics is incomplete, insofar as they cant describe what happens everywhere and everywhen in the universe on all scales. Such a thing is called a Theory of everything, which you may find interesting to read up on. Try: theory of everything, grand unified theory and super string theory

Hi, Jay-qu
I may have some more quote with your idea. Below just is some quotes that I have write ready.
-Einstein is considered as a supporter to Quantum Theory in the initial of this theory, and then he might know some defects of Quantum Theory that others person cannot realize. Einstein seems to be right when he said Quantum Theory is wrong.
-The experiments work in the last half of 20th century just prove the right of Quantum Theory in the scope of atom or the structure of matter, not in the scope of universe that Einstein want to deal in his last life.
-Theory of Everything (TOE), Grand Unified Theory, Super String Theory is not complete, because this theory was based on Unified Field Theory that still not complete.
-If Einstein lived long enough to complete his Unified Field Theory, the world will be better than our world right now. Unified Field Theory would be integration between advantages of Classical Mechanics, Quantum Theory and Relativity Theory.

HIENVN

[Jay-qu]

Can you give me a link to show a quote where Einstein says "Quantum theory is wrong" ?

Thanks, Jay

[HIENVN]

Originally Posted by Edella

I don't understand,how does the implementation of a theory have any bearing on whether it is (scientifically) correct or not? Scientific theories are seldom, if ever, "right" or "wrong" in an absolute sense. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative.

Any theory would have a lot of advantages beside some of its disadvantages; therefore, we should use advantages of theory instead of its disadvantages. Scientific theories are always tentative, and then we have a freedom to choose some theories that we can accept it for our purpose.
Although my subject is say Einstein was right when he said Quantum Theory is wrong, but my thinking just is a relative mind. The topic “Was Einstein Right When He Said Quantum Theory is Wrong?” just is a philosophy of Relativity Theory, which everyone can say Einstein right or wrong.
I really think all theory have two faces that everyone need to know while they using them.
For an example, Einstein’s equation (E equals m times c-squared) is useful for the recent science. However, in my study for Unified Field Theory, this equation will be harmful for the future science if recent scientists do not adjust this equation.
Do you think?

HIENVN

[Jay-qu]

Oh come-on, Heinvn old buddy, there is no way you didnt see my last post

Now could you be so kind as to show me the quote where Einstein says Quantum Theory is wrong? Ill even say please!