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According to a view expressed on the Muhammed thread, no harm was caused or threatened by InfiniteNow's post and it is accordingly protected by the principle of free speech.
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I suggest you read our FAQ page InfiniteNow; This insulting conduct is not allowed and could result in banishment. Please refrain from falling into this type of behavior............Infy
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Understood. While CraigD very accurately perceived my intent, and while often my ability to type humor is not as on the mark as my ability to speak it (which itself is also sometimes admittedly limited), I took the tone of Dick's post as offensive, and didn't understand the need for him to put down an entire forum because nobody had revived one of his questions.
I recognized how it might be perceived, which is why I posted the thread immediately after stating that I understood the need to challenge people to gain a response. However, I respect the rules and also you as a moderator attempting to keep the peace. I still do not feel that I was in the wrong overall, however, recognize that "throwing a rock at the ground and missing" was the nicest part of my post.
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02-12-2006
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According to a view expressed on the Muhammed thread, no harm was caused or threatened by InfiniteNow's post and it is accordingly protected by the principle of free speech.
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But free speech does not supercede the posted and accepted forum rules.
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02-12-2006
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Rules are rules
This post is comletely off topic from the thread, but I feel compelled to comment about the recent exchange...
What a fantastic example of how laws are needed to govern civility in society. This site is all about freedom of speach, and exchange of ideas. But there is scope to what is acceptable exchange, and how we can treat each other. In our best intended free exchange, we sometimes need a third party to step in and let us know that we need to reel it back in. And in the name of civility, we recognize that need, accept the judgement, and move on in peace. THAT is what separates a civil society founded on the rule of law from failures that rely totally on the good bahavior of the members.
It makes me proud to be a Hypographer, and to know that I am in such great company!
Bill
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What a fantastic example of how laws are needed to govern civility in society. This site is all about freedom of speach, and exchange of ideas. But there is scope to what is acceptable exchange, and how we can treat each other. In our best intended free exchange, we sometimes need a third party to step in and let us know that we need to reel it back in. And in the name of civility, we recognize that need, accept the judgement, and move on in peace. THAT is what separates a civil society founded on the rule of law from failures that rely totally on the good bahavior of the members.
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Remember our exchange on this in Post #25 of the Democracy thread?
http://hypography.com/forums/social-...mocracy-3.html
We're born into the rules of our society... we accept them at Hypograpy. I see this as a very relavant distinction.
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I remember it well. Another distinction is that Hypography is only as Democratic as Tormod will let it be. That would not work for greater society (nothing against Tormod). But I have already taken more than my share of TIME on this topic from this fine thread.
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I think it is TIME I paid a visit here, to the Time that Land Forgot -- though I have been a regular lurker.
I can certainly appreciate ooNow's point of view, and attempt to express it. The good doctor dick, though obviously having several brain cells, has a certain "rigidity" to him, shall we say. Kind of like: "you're not giving me the responses I want and expect, so shame on you..."
For example, I thought one of my contributions was relevant and relatively savvy, but he lost me when he dismissed the conservation of energy as meaningless for his purposes.
I guess what I'm saying is, I would love to post in this thread if there were more "give and take" going on. But the good doctor apparantly has a "script" in mind, and I'm just not interested in playing "role" and speaking only the lines that are given me.
Best of luck to you all. Long live Hypography!!!!
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Infinite, ug and BigDog-
you've got this really interesting discussion going on, and I really want to join in and add to it. But then I might get in trouble for adding fuel to the fire by dragging this thread even further astray from the obvious script.
I'm going to ask one of you (I really don't care which one) to start a new thread about the differences between a democracy and Hypography, and how much 'free speech' the staff affords the members around here.
read the tone of this as "Irish is not at all mad, and really thinks this would be a great topic, so I should start it, and bask in the glow of the Rep points she'll give me when I do"...
Enjoy!
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like why each time the sky begins to snow - you cry..." - Dan Fogelberg
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I'm surprised no one mentioned this earlier.
Time is Money! 
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I also criticize Dick's remarks about intelligence and maturity and I faded the most inappropriate ones but, Infinite, that doesn't justify the slander, something democracy doesn't allow. And that's more or less what the mom stuff was, wasn't it?
The Muhamed/free press thread, being more about these things, justified some use of irony and sarcasm but only where appropriate to the point. I hope I haven't been a contributing factor to your behaviour here.
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