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Old 04-16-2006   #191 (permalink)
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Re: Time doesn't really exist

I tend to agree time is not a gear in the gears of the makings of space. But in relativity this is not true, time is a part of how space operates. Time flexing/dialtion has not been proven to work at a level great enough for us to make a significant use out of it as far as I know today. I've heard of particles living long in acceleartors, satalites losing a fraction of a fraction of a second per year, and atomic clocks falling out of sync by tiny amounts. So far no large scale usable dialation to create a useful time travel. There remains paradox's as I understand aswell.
However in a mathamatical geometry diagram Time can be very well shown it much delay if light is to be a universal constant in velocity.
I have suggested and postulated other explanations to the avg constant of speed of light and why it seems so. However I know every little about Max Planks observations and equations part of physics, so its best to read everything before making new things, as I've been learning, but that is why I have been trying to exploit some parts of basic physics that I suggest are OVERLOOKED.
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The photon has no future only a past.
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Re: Time doesn't really exist

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Time doesn't really exist

For "anything" to exist...it has to be "physical". A thing is "physical" if it can effect other "stuff" and be affected by other "stuff".
If "stuff" don't move (relatively)....it does not effect anything and therefore does not exist.
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please, if you disagree with me. try if you can find faults in my logic.
Hmm... we might first start by defining what it is to exist. This has plagued philosophers for ages...

Even if we choose not to, an idea is not "physical," yet it can very significantly effect other "stuff," as well as be effected by other "stuff." Yet ideas exist (whatever that is).

There's one example of a flaw with this anyway. Sounds to me more like you're trying to replace the word "cotton swab" with "Q-tip." Same thing really, and doesn't help define it.
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an idea is not "physical,"
I think it is.
Your idea is just a specific configuration of neurons in your physical brain.
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Hmm... we might first start by defining what it is to exist. This has plagued philosophers for ages...
What it is to exist I think can quite plainly and clearly be explained as the opposite to that which is nothing, that which does not exist.

Which takes me to a previous thought and statement I made ealier. If a person is to think of something, no matter what it is, if that thought has occurd in there mind, wouldnt it be true to state that it has happened at some level in the space-time field. If we dont look at the person who had the thought and stored it in there memory as a person but rather a pile of matter and light and we were capable of plugging a technology into this being and pull out the data (memory) of the obscure thought and brought it into the visual, then it obviously its source exists.

In space we see light of events that are no longer here. So we might see two stars colide in a telescope that is detected to be 5000 light years away. When we watch the stars collide, they no longer exist, yet we are able to see it happen. The colliding stars that are no longer there, still exist in the universe at least in the visual represenation. Therefore since it is the opposite of nothing it is here and exists. And depending on whether times dimension is true, it could be held somewhere in time as BEING.

My opinion is, Because we have existence today, it = that existence has always been and will awalys be, simply because it is the only there there is. If you take away existence you have nothing, and with the classifaction of nothing, I dont think there ever could be a 'something', therefore Existence is EVERYTHING.. I mean so grandly imagined...Everything!
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Reading the posts above, a thought just crossed my mind!

Here it goes!! We all agree that atoms exist, electrons exist and so on

The electric current exists, because electrons exist!

What if thoughts are configuration of sub electronic particles, say gluons.
They exist, and they cross the minds of individual human beings at particular time!


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Re: Time doesn't really exist

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Time doesn't really exist

For "anything" to exist...it has to be "physical".

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an idea is not "physical,"
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I think it is.
Your idea is just a specific configuration of neurons in your physical brain.
Well, you just negated your own point then. Time is also physical by this definition as it's "just a specific configuration of neurons in your physical brain."


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Re: Time doesn't really exist

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Well, you just negated your own point then. Time is also physical by this definition as it's "just a specific configuration of neurons in your physical brain."
lol...I negated my own point?
I hope not.

"Time" don't exist in your brain.
The "idea of time" exist in your brain.
Therefor...the "idea of time" is physical.
Time is not physical.

I hope i explained it okay.


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what if you could go back in time?

would time be physical, and would it exit if we fond out how to stroll down the one way street the wrong way
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what if you could go back in time?

would time be physical, and would it exit if we fond out how to stroll down the one way street the wrong way
The views I'm about to express are only speculation, no body has ever made this trip so quesswork is all we have to go on. IMHO, if we were ever able to travel back in time I believe that it would be to another universe of our own making. That's to say, it would have no effect on the one we presently reside in. Just my own opinion, everone has one..................................Infy


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