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The journey of light (A Possible Hypothesis)

How many times have we pondered the question, “ How does electromagnetic radiation propagate through space? “. We need some sort of medium for electromagnetic radiation to propagate. The electron has a magnetic field and the proton has a magnetic field of opposite polarity. Both of these fields obey the inverse square law which means that they extend to infinity. This should mean that the universe is two magnetic fields of opposite polarity with differing strengths at all points. To illustrate the formation of a photon I will use the simplest structure in the universe and that is the hydrogen atom. If two hydrogen atoms collide, that collision causes them to change direction, this change in direction is an instant acceleration of the two atoms. The electron and proton of each atom are charged particles accelerating in a magnetic field.. Thus they create a positive electric field and a negative electric field that propagates out through the universal electromagnetic field..

Post #15 by NEW SCIENCE in his thread A Steady State Universe is what made me wonder about this as a possible way that light could propagate through space.
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Re: The journey of light (A Possible Hypothesis)

Ok, I can see two possible problems with this idea.

First, would the speed of light still be constant with respect to all observers?

Second, would gravity still affect the path of light? Possibly, but wouldn't that require that gravity be related to the electromagnetic force?

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Isn't "space" a perfect medium for electromagnetic propulsion? Seeing as all electromagnetism in the universe travels easier through vacuum than anything else?
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Re: The journey of light (A Possible Hypothesis)

Tor, if you were a very good auto mechanic and I asked you to describe how an internal combustion engine works, you could give me an accurate picture of exactly how it works. I am not anything close to a very good physicist but since no one else has given a description of the mechanics of how light works I thought that I could at least offer a suggestion that we could discuss.

Since my original post I have been thinking about this moving of charged particles in the universal magnetic fields and the thought comes to mind that moving a mass of charged particles in these fields might also explain inertia?

BTW in my original post I said the universal electromagnetic field and it should have been universal magnetic field because the electromagnetic part is what we call a photon.

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Re: The journey of light (A Possible Hypothesis)

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Isn't "space" a perfect medium for electromagnetic propulsion? Seeing as all electromagnetism in the universe travels easier through vacuum than anything else?
I would use the term 'surface' instead of 'medium.'

So space is a perfect (pristine) surface for the propagation of radiation. Note that here, the term surface is a 3-dimensional surface, not the usual 2-dimensional kind we're familliar with.

Does that make any sense?

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If we look at waves on the surface of a liquid, the medium that the waves propagate in is the liquid. Sound waves in a solid, the medium is the solid. Sound in a gas, the medium is the gas. The point is that we do not have a medium in which light can propagate except mabye the one I suggest.

Regarding the idea of the magnetic field of the universe being responsible for inertia. Wouldn't that imply inertia is lower in intergalactic space than here on earth?
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I am rather surprised that a proposal of the actual mechanisiam by which light works should generate so little interest, even if it is totally wrong.
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...The electron and proton of each atom are charged particles accelerating in a magnetic field.. Thus they create a positive electric field and a negative electric field that propagates out through the universal electromagnetic field..

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It seems you're adding a mechanism that my not even be required, complicating the problem, if you will. Tormod and I seem to think space itself, the vacuum, whether you call it a medium or a surface, is sufficient for explaining the propagation of electromagnetic waves. Certainly this simple mechanism needs to be further elucidated. I would attempt to do so here, but it may be highjacking the thread, since the idea differs from the one quoted above.

Question: with your hypothesis, how is light considered particles and waves (neither or both)?

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The point is that we do not have a medium in which light can propagate except mabye the one I suggest.
My point was that since we know that light propagates in vacuum, we don't need to invoke a different medium (or surface as CC suggests). Our cosmos works perfectly fine for propagating light waves.

But your definition of light may be different than the standard one, of course.
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The Michelson-Morley experiment proved that there is no luminiferous aether for light to propagate because regardless of the direction that the observer moved the speed of light remained the same. My contention is that the magnetic field generated by the observer well always propagate away from the observer at C regardless of his velocity or direction of motion. Hence C would remain the same regardless of the observers motion. The wave particle duality of light requires only that the energy be delivered in discrete packets, which is what my hypothesis describes.
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