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Old 05-22-2007   #1 (permalink)
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How big would the explosion from this collision be, describe what color it would be, how bright it would be, and how fast the center of its fire ball expand.

The magfield attractor is 12 inches and weighs 20 grams, and the anti matter magfield is just as big around.

The magfield attractor magnetically attaches to near by magnetic fields What happens when it attaches to its opposite?


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Here are some numbers on the energies involved. Where are you struggling?

Antimatter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In antimatter-matter collisions resulting in photon emission, the entire rest mass of the particles is converted to kinetic energy.


The energy per unit mass () is about 10 orders of magnitude greater than chemical energy (compared to TNT at ), and formation of water at ), about 4 orders of magnitude greater than nuclear energy that can be liberated today using nuclear fission (about 40 MeV per 238U nucleus transmuted to Lead, or ), and about 2 orders of magnitude greater than the best possible from fusion (about for the proton-proton chain).


The reaction of 1 kg of antimatter with 1 kg of matter would produce (180 petajoules) of energy (by the mass-energy equivalence formula E = mc˛).

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I'm struggling on what a faster collision, about 4 times as fast as a regular collision would do, because they magnetically collide in two ways, not just anti matter and matter colliding, but a magnetic field made of anti matter and a mag field attractor made of matter colliding.

Which is significantly more powerful.
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I'm struggling on what a faster collision, about 4 times as fast as a regular collision would do, because they magnetically collide in two ways, not just anti matter and matter colliding, but a magnetic field made of anti matter and a mag field attractor made of matter colliding.

Which is significantly more powerful.
What effect do you propose momentum would have on a matter antimatter collision? Since a matter antimatter collision is 100% efficient, the momentum induced by your magnetic field would have zero net effect in power output.

Particle and antiparticle touching at 2 miles per hour has the same effect as a particle and antiparticle colliding at the speed of light.

However, if you know of something I'm missing here, please share. If you truly understand a process which changes this then you're likely to already be well beyond my level of knowledge on the subject.

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E=MC2, you cannot gain more energy from less, right? No I don't think that I am beyond you in this subject, more like I was wrong and you were right. E=MC2 comes in many forms.
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E=MC2, you cannot gain more energy from less, right?
More that everything is energy in some form, and that conservation of energy indicates that you cannot get out more energy from a system than you put in (hence, perpetual motion machines won't work... all that increasing entropy and all).

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No I don't think that I am beyond you in this subject, more like I was wrong and you were right.
It's not about right and wrong. Also, don't just take my word on this. I was guessing, and could be completely off base (math and physics aren't where I'm strongest by any means). What I'm speculating here is that a particle/antiparticle's mass is not increased by it's velocity.

Maybe one of our more informed members will chime in to confirm or offer new insights which could be of use in your quest for greater understanding.

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Our universe is made of space time, and thanks to space time, their are laws that we can't break. But before their was our universe, their was no space time, and thus, no laws, consider space time water, and consider non space time, or and no space time as oxygen, and we used anti dense energy to open up a ripple, or bubble in space time, a bubble of oxygen inside water.

So what would happen if you collided more space time curved into less, and less space time curved into more, in other words, what if condensed space time collided with negatively dense space time, a bubble of condensed water collided with a bubble of oxygen. I think that if the laws of physics met anti laws of physics, that they would have to annihilate each other, right?

And if they did annihilate each other, it would release tons of energy.

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Our universe is made of space time, and thanks to space time, their are laws that we can't break. But before their was our universe, their was no space time, and thus, no laws, consider space time water, and consider non space time, or and no space time as oxygen, and we used anti dense energy to open up a ripple, or bubble in space time, a bubble of oxygen inside water.
I suppose you are referring to Planck Time?
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So what would happen if you collided more space time curved into less, and less space time curved into more, in other words, what if condensed space time collided with negatively dense space time, a bubble of condensed water collided with a bubble of oxygen. I think that if the laws of physics met anti laws of physics, that they would have to annihilate each other, right?
CraigD addressed this in the other thread you posted in. Space-time curvature is caused by mass and the associated gravity.
Your last sentence is lost upon me. Annihilation means goodbye, no more, see you later. If that were the case at the beginning of the universe (BB theory) then we would not be here discussing this. What is interesting is the unaccountable mass of the universe, which has spawned the theories of Black Holes and Dark Matter.
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And if they did annihilate each other, it would release tons of energy.
In the form of what?


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I suppose you are referring to Planck Time?
I am not so sure this was the intent of Gardamorg's comment. I really do think he's referring to the fabric of the universe itself, currently spacetime by our models and theories. Planck time is more a representation of the smallest (currently conceivable) possible measure of the passage of time that has any meaning... Like the tiniest possible break between two clicks of an incredibly fast stop-watch... , and represents the time it would take a photon, travelling at the speed of light (c) to cross the distance equal to one Planck length... .

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CraigD addressed this in the other thread you posted in. Space-time curvature is caused by mass and the associated gravity.
I believe Freeztar is referring to this post:

http://hypography.com/forums/175260-post4.html

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And if they did annihilate each other, it would release tons of energy.
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In the form of what?
Mostly gamma rays, but the smack of energy in a point like locale would probably result in some spacetime ripples and gravity waves... Again, though, I'm just guessing on that.

Here's a pretty user friendly overview:

What's the matter with antimatter?


Gardamorg,

Per your first statement in your first post of this thread, recall my comment above that a matter antimatter collision mostly produces gamma rays. Your question about brightness and color of an annihilation event must take that into consideration, since brightness and color are generally descriptions used on light in the visible range of the electromagnetic spectrum... much less energetic than gamma radiation.

Keep asking questions though. It's okay to let your imagination fuel your search, just make sure quality data and deeper understandings keep you grounded.

You may also check out that work being done by this bright (pun fully intended) group of folks:

CERN - The world's largest particle physics laboratory


Cheers.
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IN, how do you know exactly what I'm thinking?

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